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HP circuit technology could lead to boot-free computers
The Tech Herald ^ | May 01, 2008 | Stevie Smith

Posted on 05/01/2008 1:07:24 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: Berlin_Freeper
I have been using a PC for years and I got an early moms day present in the form of a Macbook......turning on the PC making coffee and cleaning the house and finally I can get on my computer is a thing of the past....I am loving my Mac, no waiting to boot.....I think my PC only using husband will be buying a Mac the next time he needs a new laptop
41 posted on 05/01/2008 3:07:31 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Oh goody. Wait till that gets infected. how would one get ‘under’ the boot process to clean it up?


42 posted on 05/01/2008 3:13:16 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Diplomat
They spend 4 decades and come up with something that will likely rarely be used? No wonder HP doesn't make computers anymore.

I think the more likely usage will be for laptop standby modes, or the replacement of hard drives with solid state memristor memory (which I think they say is as fast as DRAM with similar densities). Vista already has an option to standby to flash for laptops properly equipped. If the new memory is solid-state, and faster than flash, then expect a new incompatible form of SD and CF memory for digital cameras and MP3 players too.

43 posted on 05/01/2008 3:53:31 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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I didn’t read that the speeds were equivalent. If they’ve spent 40 years on this, I doubt they will be as cheap to mass produce as DRAM is now.

The stand-by mode is an interesting application for this. The issue of size-to-storage will be everything for this product. If these are smaller per storage capacity than traditional DRAM, then they’ll be used. If they are larger, I cannot see them being used for the simple reason that you’d be better off just having actual Memory which could be used for the OS and all Applications.

To me, this device would have to completely replace the use of page file quota. If the Page File exists in conjuction with this device, then I really do not see how these could be justfied for use on any client. If they can replace the OS’s pagefile, then I can see the reboot benefit. However, the MB and OS would have to be modified to successfully use these.

That said, if these can replace your pagefile with DRAM (or even half DRAM) speed, I’d want one too. Eliminating those IO hits would be great.


44 posted on 05/01/2008 4:38:55 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: dan1123

You’re all missing the point.

This discovery is a fourth fundamental type of passive device: resistor, capacitor, inductor, memristor. Trivializing this achievement by reducing it down to something as inane as saying “you’ll be able to boot your computer faster” makes a mockery of the magnitude of the discovery. It’s as stupid as saying the result of the invention of gigahertz radio frequency generators will allow you to cook your hot dogs faster...

Read a good description (like the one in EE Times — the industry rag read by most Electrical Engineers) where they’re saying that electronics textbooks will have to be rewritten to accomodate this knowledge — it’s that significant.


45 posted on 05/01/2008 5:14:20 PM PDT by SonAboveAnItch
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I wonder wonder what the schematic symbol is?
46 posted on 05/01/2008 5:23:33 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: Jack Black
Old diodes don’t die, they just fade away.

Or not. My old ca 1971 auto battery charger with its selenium rectifiers still works...

47 posted on 05/01/2008 5:39:01 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: nicola_tesla; Leftism is Mentally Deranged
 My Linux and Unix servers only get rebooted if there is a kernel or hardware change.

Only Windows needs the reboot more often.

Indeed. It took Microsoft to convince people that it was normal  to reboot computers regularly.

Here's the uptime of a few of the boxes I support.

wat10 up 172 days
wat11 up 198 days
wat12 up 198 days
wat13 up 318 days
wat14 up 318 days
sat01 up 172 days
sat02 up 172 days
w3t03 up 198 days
w3t04 up 198 days
w3s01 up 286 days
w3s02 up 286 days
was01 up 196 days
was02 up 171 days
was03 up 264 days
was04 up 285 days
was05 up 285 days


My personal desktop gets rebooted more often, but that's only because I run bleeding edge kernels, and you have to reboot for kernel changes.

48 posted on 05/02/2008 7:12:28 AM PDT by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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The only reason I have to boot my VMS boxes is to do backups. My Windows boxes have constant virus updates and patches that necessitate boots.
49 posted on 05/02/2008 7:17:31 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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