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Sect boys may have been abused by older boys
MySA.com ^ | 5/1/08 | Terri Langford and Lisa Sandberg

Posted on 05/01/2008 10:47:42 AM PDT by Politicalmom

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To: CharlesWayneCT

This was testified to in the first hearing. They learned it during the investigations, which took several days.


81 posted on 05/01/2008 4:49:14 PM PDT by Politicalmom (It's the child abuse, stupid!!)
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To: UCANSEE2

“treatment outside of the ranch” would likely be the initial x-ray, and setting the cast.

The treatment he would be doing at the ranch would then be follow-up visits, as the ranch physician.

My insurance company works like this. I have to get treatment for broken bones at the hospital, then I can do followup with my primary care physician.

This probably means they don’t have the facilities at the ranch for x-rays.


82 posted on 05/01/2008 4:50:02 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Politicalmom
Thanks for the ping.

Guys I'm not part of the market team but I encourage all of yall that can to donate...now. Last night the bar was at 92%...guess where it is this evening? Last week I signed up for the dollar a day club. Most of us can afford that. That's less than a soda. Anyway, I don't need to preach. Yal know how important FR is. So ... I'll be cutting and posting this to my pings tonight until the AM tells me it knock it off.:')

Now... if this is true about the boys, PM, ....it makes things that much harder to fix...or even if it can be.

83 posted on 05/01/2008 4:51:02 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: SENTINEL

So, go and atone. I know another descendant of Martin Harris and he is still happily in the Church. I see him every Sunday.

You are free to believe whatever you wish. I do get tired of being called basically a liar because I choose to have faith in The Lord Jesus Christ and the Restored Gospel.


84 posted on 05/01/2008 4:52:01 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Utah Binger

Go face some truth, then. I face it on my knees to The Lord.


85 posted on 05/01/2008 4:53:34 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: SENTINEL

Utah, 1850’s.

-— The marriage of mother and daughter to one man
was of so common an occurrence that it ceased to
be regarded as anything out of the ordinary course
of events.
I had some schoolmates, two sisters, whose mother
was married to a Mr. McDonald and when she gave herself
to him, it was with the express understanding that
the daughters should be sealed to him as soon as they
were of a proper age. The little girls knew of
the arrangement, and used to talk very openly of
“marrying Pa,” and in very much the same way
they would speak of their intention to take tea
to a friend.

Ann Young, Wife #19, Chapter XIX


86 posted on 05/01/2008 5:03:18 PM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Brittle bones is not seen much in this country.

I think the idea that these kids have that is hogwash.

Carolyn Jessop said she never heard of any of the kids having brittle bones.


87 posted on 05/01/2008 5:06:06 PM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

So, these outside facilities should have record of the broken bone cases, to match the 41 incidents of broken bones.


88 posted on 05/01/2008 5:22:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: Old Mountain man; SENTINEL; greyfoxx39; colorcountry

Objectivity requires intellectual honesty and not the sad fundamental silliness of your lightweight statement. Please try again OMM with something a bit more involved and developed with such in this thread. I know there is a Lord; Just not Joe Smith and Mormons abusing the boys.


89 posted on 05/01/2008 5:24:31 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, most beautiful place on earth.)
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To: JRochelle

Right. If if can be proven that no ‘gene’ is involved leading to brittle bones, then that is one less excuse to deal with, should they end up needing an excuse.

So far, we only have a figure, 10%, and no verification that it is outside the norm, other than the first report I heard on local news.

Your remark about the statements of Carolyn Jessop provides support . Thanks.


90 posted on 05/01/2008 5:29:12 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: SENTINEL

I am so glad your eyes were opened...


91 posted on 05/01/2008 5:39:56 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: Utah Binger

Well, usually it is baptists and catholics that are abusing boys. LDS folks don’t do that sort of thing, as a rule.

Of course, there are exceptions to every rule. I would imagine that there are even catholic priests that are not child molesters and a few baptists that are not hypocrites.


92 posted on 05/01/2008 5:49:35 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: JRochelle

Could the reason for the number of broken bone cases at the FLDS have anything to do with possible ‘severe mental retardation’?

It’s not a good idea to let retarded children drive the ‘farm tractor’.


93 posted on 05/01/2008 6:02:55 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: Old Mountain man

It’s not evil religions.

It’s evil people using religions.


94 posted on 05/01/2008 6:05:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: UCANSEE2

If the doctor is not lying, there should be records. We might not hear of it, as they may be covered under Hipaa, but the CPS or the police will probably have access under their investigative authority.

I was wondering, if there is actual evidence of older boys abusing younger boys, how does that mesh with the judge’s ruling to send the older boys together with the younger boys to group homes?


95 posted on 05/01/2008 6:17:15 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“I was wondering, if there is actual evidence of older boys abusing younger boys, how does that mesh with the judge’s ruling to send the older boys together with the younger boys to group homes?”

Don’t have a clue.

Could be that there is no physical evidence. Little boys don’t get pregnant.

The only mention of ‘older boys’ I heard, was of TWO older boys. Maybe they weren’t the ones the younger ones claimed did it?

We don’t know, at this point.


96 posted on 05/01/2008 6:25:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: r9etb
In this case, I think the atmosphere in the FLDS compound was probably incredibly sexually charged ... and the boys would have been shut out of it by the older men who had access to the girls. And thus their outlet would have been ... other boys.

The same thing happens in Islamic cultures, particularly with Arab men and boys.

97 posted on 05/01/2008 6:25:08 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: UCANSEE2

That could well be the truest statement on FR. I hope they don’t beat you up too badly for saying it.


98 posted on 05/01/2008 6:28:13 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Hey Saundra, check out Post #15.


99 posted on 05/01/2008 6:28:19 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Utah Binger

And you are the resident expert on objectivity and intellectual honesty?

OOOOOOOOOOkay.


100 posted on 05/01/2008 6:29:33 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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