Posted on 05/01/2008 6:01:31 AM PDT by MizSterious
Not if they were unable to gather enough evidence to obtain a legal, viable warrant in that four years.
The amount of TIME is irrelevent. The amount of EVIDENCE is the only thing that matters.
Your argument leads to statements like this: “I’ve GOT four years of college, why won’t you give me my degree?”. Well, maybe it’s because, while you ATTENDED college for four years, you didn’t do the WORK.
And another thing: All the strict “law and order”, “give the police the benefit of the doubt”, folks on this site have YET to explain to me why NONE of the MEN (well, ONE now) accused of the terrible crimes in this case have been ARRESTED. You would think after a four year inverstigation with someone “on the inside” for three years, that they would know names and would have been able to make literally DOZENS of arrests (of MEN) by now. Why are there basically only women and children in custody?
Will someone please explain this phenomenon to me without being snarky, insulting, derogatory or condescending? I really do want the criminals in this case to be brought to justice. I simply can’t understand why they are still free if the police and CPS performed such a well run investigation.
“They had been investigating for four years, “
Actually, everyone has known what was going on for 160 years, that’s why the Mormons got kicked out of Kirtland and Far West and Nauvoo etc.
What a well qualified "doctor" Look at all those years of experience.
Geez, couldn't that be added to the child abuse list?
No point in responding you are just arguing with your self over these issues, and in my opinion seem to be making excuses for this cult. Oh well.
I’m incapable of being unsnarky, but in a nutshell, they have to finish the investigation before they can start making arrests. One article from yesterday or the day before mentioned the mountain of paperwork to be read and analyzed, plus the interviews are ongoing. Then there’s all the DNA and other tests—they aren’t done overnight. (Only on teevee.) It appears to me that Texas is dotting all its “i’s” and crossing all its “t’s” in this, and for any citizen, that can only be a good thing.
Here’s snarkin’ at you....
“Why on Earth would it be bad to hug your child??”
I’ll tell you what every father knows. Before children, wives tend to focus on their husbands. This is even more true of stay-at-home wives, After kids, wives tend to focus on the kids. That change is hard on some men. If a wife never has children, she will continue to focus on the needs of her husband. So the poly’s figured out the remedy. Their wives never “have” children.
For the sake of those children, I hope you are right.
*** “I can also tell you that we don’t live in a community where there is a pattern of abuse.”***
Is it safe?
I know people here are going to think I’m nuts, but I want to take a couple of these kids so badly.
They need some love.
“You would think after a four year inverstigation with someone “on the inside” for three years,”
I am not aware that there has been a four year “investigation”, and the last I heard about the informer was vague.
A couple of weeks ago it was thought of as only an informer that would pass some information to the sheriff, including word definitions.
At that time we didn’t know which state the sympathizer was in, and it sure didn’t sound like a professional type that was doing deep investigation work, instead it merely sounded like an individual that would offer up what they could do to help give the sheriff a sense of what went on behind the walls of the cults daily life.
I haven’t kept up with the informant angle so my take may be outdated.
It’s the ultimate for these guys, ain’t it?
Oh, completely safe. If you’re a man. Not so safe if you’re a child, woman, or young boy....
raid noun
1 a: a hostile or predatory incursion b: a surprise attack by a small force 2 a: a brief foray outside one's usual sphere b: a sudden invasion by officers of the law
Please show where they *staged a raid*.
Did they go in with guns blazing and blast down the doors?
Didn't they get warrants and act within the legal bounds set for them?
Didn't they go back a second time?
Tell me how this fits in with the definition of a raid.
Wow - very witty retort.
The amount of TIME is irrelevent. The amount of EVIDENCE is the only thing that matters.
I think you nailed to but should include ‘quality’ along with amount.
The court has a review process underway now to go through the evidence that has been collected and determine what is germane to the case and what is private/personal to the FLDS. That review is going to take sometime as the list of potential evidence gathered is 80 pages long. Not gonna be gone through overnite.
The criminal component of this event will be ongoing for sometime, probably years out before trials, convictions if any and appeals are completed. In the meantime the CPS will follow the guidelines and determine the future of these children as to being returned to the family or placed in permanent foster care.
Me too.
My family is all raised and I'm looking forward to enjoying my empty nest, but I am overcome by the desire to take in some of these kids, even a whole family of mother and children.
***Oh, completely safe. If you’re a man. Not so safe if you’re a child, woman, or young boy....***
I’ll ask again...”Is it safe?”
Everyone keep harping about the call coming from out of state. Just how is that relevant?
My daughter rooms with a girl from CA at college. If she calls her, she has to place a long distance phone call to an out of state cell phone.
With cell phones, an out of state number is meaningless.
ELDORADO, Texas (AP) -- When authorities moved to search the large white temple on the polygamist compound in West Texas, about five dozen of the sect's men prayed and cried around the structure, state investigators said Thursday.
Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran also said he had been working with a confidential informant for four years who was feeding him information about life inside the polygamist sect.
Doran declined to say whether the informant was in Texas or other sect compounds in Utah or Arizona. It wasn't until after the search had begun that Doran learned about marriage beds in the temple and the forced marriages of underage girls to older men.
"It was instrumental in teaching me the group's ways," Doran said.
Exerpt. Read the rest at source: CNN.Com.
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