Posted on 05/01/2008 6:01:31 AM PDT by MizSterious
Agreed. However, what about the claims that the state did know the call was fabricated? Have they been shown to be false? They seem to have discovered rather quickly that the call was from out of state and from someone who has been convicted of similar false allegations. Perhaps they didn't find out that out until after they staged the raid?
Once the authorities entered, though, they discovered pregnant underage girls, girls with more than one child, papers indicating that rampant polygamy was occurring at YFZ, and even a document involving cyanide poisoning.
Has anyone else ever heard about the cyanide tidbit? This one was news to me.
No kidding. On some of the earlier threads especially, I saw some of the most bizarre interpretations of the Constitution. One very creative fella claimed almost every amendment had been violated before he was done. A lot of budding Perry Masons will have their hearts broken by post #11. ;)
I don’t think these were leaks, or not in the way “leaks” usually work. I haven’t heard that there’s a gag order, and if there isn’t, it’s probably alright to release information.
Kidnapping, interstate trafficking, torture, murder, etc. Where are the arrests? After investigating for 4 years surely they can arrest someone for one of those offenses.
Patience........ When the court appointed reviewer of all the collected evidence [documents, papers, records, computers, etc. etc. etc.] and determines what is germane for prosecution and what is private to the FLDS then you’ll begin to see movement on the part of the criminal prosecutors. This may take a long time to review all the material collected.
Also don’t forget the feds are also now invovled and you may well see action from their side.
Thank you, Lots of information & very interesting!
Has anyone else ever heard about the cyanide tidbit? This one was news to me.
This was in earlier reports. However no cyanide was found at the Ranch or that is the last I saw on it.
Jonestown redux. I wonder what the contents of that document might have been. Chilling, regardless.
I remember reading that “tidbit” a few weeks. Haven’t seen one more word about it since.
I bet they yank this guy’s ticket before this is over.
Under Texas law any professional registered by the state of Texas is under an obligation to report any child abuse if they are aware of it. There is a time line maybe less than 48 hrs and a proscribed procedure for the reporting.
You are mostly likely correct he’ll lose his license at the least.
Yes! But little was ever really said about it. It brought back to my mind as a teenager the Rev Jim Jones & his cult..... I wish more would come out about it & the shredded papers that were found.
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Just one mention here of Cyanide......
http://gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/12/judge-says-ranch-children-must-stay-in-san/
4/12/08
Also on Friday, authorities released the search warrant inventory of evidence gathered at the ranch, which ran to more than 80 pages.
One search warrant inventory entry that attracted immediate media attention was the “cyanide poisoning document.” Tela Mange, spokesperson for the Department of Public Safety, said it actually formed part of a first-aid manual. She declined to discuss the rest of the list.
They're not sure which way to spin this. Note previous claims of 'brittle bone' disease: FLDS Lawyers are now claiming Brittle Bone Disease.
Yet another public acknowledgement that fundamentalist Mormonism didn't just start when the Short Creek polygamists completely broke off formal LDS affiliations in the mid-1930s under a "prophet" who was cracking down on polygamists.
"Over a century"=late 19th century & early 1900s mainstream Mormonism. The fundamentalists were prominent in mainstream Mormonism--keeping new polygamous relationships alive even in the post-Manifesto years.
As the article says, Joseph Smith mandated polygamy. Smith never rescinded it. His successor, Brigham Young, didn't rescind it. Young's successor, John Taylor, never rescinded it...Taylor, in fact, in 1884 began dismissing LDS bishops who refused to enter into it.
Even Woodruff, who was credited with the Manifesto, never rescinded LDS Doctrine & Covenants 132. D&C 132 is still part of LDS "Scripture." A year after the manifesto--1891--the LDS Church petitioned U.S. President Cleveland for polygamous couples married before that year to be granted "amnesty." In the petition, the LDS church said it had "suspended" polygamy...(Please note the word "suspended"...when a professiional player is "suspended," he hasn't been kicked out or booted from the league...it just means mandatory sideline time).
In a book called Mormon Doctrine (1966 edition), LDS apostle Bruce McConkie labeled polygamy a "holy practice" and said it would return at the Second Coming of Jesus.
Nah, I think they are going to get them for tax evasion. This has all the indicators of all smoke and no fire. I am sure that they will get them for something, do you remember that preschool in California? I do.
Yes. One cult (LDS) begat another (fLDS)
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