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"Lost" Boys Accounted For (YFZ/fLDS Daily Thread - 4/29/08)
April 29, 2008 | By Brian West and Amy Joi O'Donoghue

Posted on 04/29/2008 7:34:43 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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4/28 thread with articles on:

Criminal charges urged for YFZ, new "prophet" film, debate over legalities of raid, Bountiful, BC fLDS group, reason in religious beliefs, former fLDS member shares insights, more on the Short Creek raid, documentary about group on WE TV.

4/27 thread with articles on:

Gene disorders in group, child custody processes, appeal to Gov. Perry, unusual way of life in YFZ, possibility of children held at YFZ whose parents were forced out, sheriff says authorities had spy inside sect.

4/26 thread with articles on:

Cost of care for the children of the sect, charges that two kids might be missing, how members of the sect dress, court rejects requests of mothers to stay with children, appeals court cancels hearing, Canadian involved in sect, culture shock for kids, oil drillers last laugh, possible involvement in human trafficking and drugs at Colorado City, Rep. Kay Granger's request to investigate financial ties to USG

4/25 thread with aritcles on:

Courts allowing state to place children in foster homes, legal challenges to the raid, beliefs on polygamy, protests against the raid and removal of children, Warren Jeff's appeal, portions of the Texas Family Code
4/24 thread with articles on:

Seized polygamous sect kids face tough adjustment, articles on how and where the children were placed, Carolyn Jessup on Canadian children possibly at the ranch, legal aid group challenges judge, interview with Benjamin Bistline, 40 women choose to go to safe house instead of back to cult, 25 girls claimed to be adults, now found to be minors.

Currently collecting informative links to include with the daily threads--should appear this weekend.

As always, for the sake of orderliness (and to prevent the pulling of threads and/or messages), let's do try to stay on topic and polite. You can't have a flame war if you don't take the bait.

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1 posted on 04/29/2008 7:34:43 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: Politicalmom; colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; ..

Daily Thread ping.


2 posted on 04/29/2008 7:35:59 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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PING!!

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3 posted on 04/29/2008 7:43:53 AM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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The last of the extra Texas state troopers, child welfare investigators and others involved in the massive effort of caring for Fundamentalist LDS Church children in custody have rolled out of town. "The demobilization of resources in San Angelo was completed...

Hmmmmm, resources roll out of town and are demobilized - still no arrests ! WTF!

4 posted on 04/29/2008 7:47:34 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: TexasRedeye

That may change when the DNA results come back. When they start trying to round people up though they may not be able to find them.


5 posted on 04/29/2008 7:49:55 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: TexasRedeye

I suppose you wait to arrest people until you have finished your investigation....
susie


6 posted on 04/29/2008 8:02:26 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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Hi Greyfoxx! Thanks for all you're doing here.

This whole disparity between the numbers of the boys and girls found on the ranch is a huge issue, getting little press. Yes, it seems that many of the girls suffered greatly, but what of the boys? Why is the whole nation not aghast that of 400+ children seized, only 20 some were boys?

I keep hearing about all the boys being booted out of the camp when they reach puberty, and yes, that's disturbing enough. But what about all the prepubescent boys? Where are all the 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10, 11, and 12 year old boys? Certainly there should be more than 20 some of boys in those age categories, even if all the teen boys are kicked out.

7 posted on 04/29/2008 8:02:37 AM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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I’ve been thinking the same. I wonder how many are up in Canada already....


8 posted on 04/29/2008 8:05:07 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (I don't share well with others so I could never ..... Keep it Sweet!!!!)
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To: keats5

What are the possibilities that little boys were all sent off somewhere else? Certainly more than 20 were born out of 400.


9 posted on 04/29/2008 8:08:25 AM PDT by jusduat (I am a strange and recurring anomaly)
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To: TexasRedeye

Hmmmmm, resources roll out of town and are demobilized - still no arrests ! WTF!


Well the wheels of criminal justice turn slowly it seems. But on another note John Ford has reported to a federal prison in Pollock LA to start his 5 1/2 yr sentence.


10 posted on 04/29/2008 8:08:47 AM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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11 posted on 04/29/2008 8:10:48 AM PDT by Godzilla (I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.)
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I saw a post somewhere yesterday that I can't find, but there were a lot of young boys in the 400 figure. Not as many boys as girls, but quite a few. The disparity is in the number of the teen-age boys, it appears.

If anyone can find the info, please post a link here.

12 posted on 04/29/2008 8:13:12 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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13 posted on 04/29/2008 8:26:55 AM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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Thanks deport..quite a difference in the 14-17 age group, huh?


14 posted on 04/29/2008 8:30:29 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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To: deport
Two boys who turned 18 while in state custody also have voluntarily chosen to stay with younger boys

I wonder why they didn't want to go back?

15 posted on 04/29/2008 8:33:39 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

Exactly,
lets see....treated like humans with a bit of respect and the food is probably better too.

Plus, maybe they also want to stay and protect the younger ones too.


16 posted on 04/29/2008 8:34:56 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: greyfoxx39

Notice they start disappearing in the 10-13 age group. Some escapees have said that boys are thrown out on the street with absolutely no skills before they even hit their teens.


17 posted on 04/29/2008 8:36:08 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: I still care

Well, Jeffs picked the inhabitants of the Eldorado compound from among his “elites”, according to reports...he would hardly send boys over to the “Virgin Ranch” IMO. It has been reported that there are children that were either taken from or given by their parents for that purpose. SICK!


18 posted on 04/29/2008 8:42:01 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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I just noticed....”In before the pictures of the nekkid bunny women”!


19 posted on 04/29/2008 8:44:07 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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To: CindyDawg

My thoughts...if they were allowed to stay til maturity (for them 18) at the yfz...then I wonder (hope I am wrong) but these two young men may be ‘chosen ones’ who were not abandoned at 14 or 15. So maybe they are using their ‘leadership’ skills and keeping the younger boys in spiritual line...and act in absentia for their ‘fathers.’ I hope I’ wrong and you’re right...


20 posted on 04/29/2008 8:46:46 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I could never 'Stay Sweet' I am a bitter Pennsylvanian)
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