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Cat shoots for the moon..Company teams with NASA to build habitats, roads on lunar surface
PJS ^ | 4/27/2008 | PAUL GORDON

Posted on 04/27/2008 9:36:27 AM PDT by janetjanet998

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1 posted on 04/27/2008 9:36:28 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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2 posted on 04/27/2008 9:38:43 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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I wish Halliburton would get in on this project. It would drive the moonbats right over the edge.


3 posted on 04/27/2008 9:44:08 AM PDT by avacado
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This is the right thought process. We need to divert all the resourses we are wasting on manned flight to the process of putting robots on the moon to build infrastructure.


4 posted on 04/27/2008 9:45:26 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Diesel?


5 posted on 04/27/2008 9:47:12 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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Wait till they get a pair of Cat 637s with push-pulls on the moon. They’ll really move your mortgage.


6 posted on 04/27/2008 10:01:14 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Roads on the moon???

I just had a vision of 5 county workers in space suits leaning against their shovels.


7 posted on 04/27/2008 10:01:38 AM PDT by ryan71 (Typical bitter white gun toter)
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Diesel?

No, it'll be a nuclear powered Cat D9.

With 20 years between refueling stops.
8 posted on 04/27/2008 10:08:06 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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Uh... landing strips?? I don’t think so. Maybe landing pads or zones, but no landing strips needed on the moon. No atmosphere means no atmospheric style flying machines.


9 posted on 04/27/2008 10:08:19 AM PDT by Sparticus (Libs, they're so open minded that their brains leaked out.)
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Nukes? Keep those Euro-greenies far away.


10 posted on 04/27/2008 10:10:37 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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Nukes? Keep those Euro-greenies far away.

Of course. And why should they be there in the first place?

I say the Moon is ours by right of conquest.

Screw the u.n., the space charter and anyone who dares to stand in our way.

I'm having visions of hard vacuum sealed packages of Rachel Corrie brand astronaut pancakes...
11 posted on 04/27/2008 10:21:10 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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"President Bush, in early 2004, called on the space agency to find a way for man to live on the moon."

NO WAR FOR MOON DUST!!!

12 posted on 04/27/2008 10:22:10 AM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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If those ‘leaders’ in Washington are in need of a solution to our economic situation, they could simply repeal the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and stand somewhere out of the way.


13 posted on 04/27/2008 10:23:32 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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Uh... landing strips?? I don’t think so. Maybe landing pads or zones, but no landing strips needed on the moon. No atmosphere means no atmospheric style flying machines.

Actually, if they can figure a way to charge a large area of prepared field to repel dust(which is pretty much everywhere on the moon), they can eliminate the danger of blast propelled particulate matter scouring any structures above ground when a ship takes off.

It might not be an immediate threat, but even a tiny hole punched in a habitat wall means lost O2 so a prepared landing field might not be a bad idea.
14 posted on 04/27/2008 10:26:46 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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"...Cat D9."

Yeah - Killdozer needs the work.

15 posted on 04/27/2008 10:30:42 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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Right but wrong. The #1 application for Caterpillar machines should be to dig horizontal tunnels in hard rock. The purpose of such tunnels is for habitation, and by building them, they achieve enormous cost and time savings.

Importantly, the Lunar lander taking the machines to the surface is on a one-way ticket, so it can be cannibalized for things like reinforcing rod, structural supports, flooring and importantly, pressure doors.

By building tunnels, astronauts are out of the heat and cold, the vacuum, radiation from space and enhanced radiation on the surface, and that terribly abrasive and destructive Lunar dust.

Such mining robots don’t have to be fast. Even and inch or two of rock a day taken from the wall, crushed and passed out of the tunnel, will be more than sufficient. At intervals they insert advanced ceramic bolts, stronger than steel, to reinforce the ceiling, and spray the walls with sealant against micro fissures.

The robots work for a year or two before people show up. In that time they prepare the tunnel. Most likely the finishing and testing would have to be done by humans.

After a tunnel is done, the robot either continues to mine additional tunnels, or it is used to mine and transport water ice back to the tunnel. Its reactor can also provide power for the tunnel: heat, light and air processing.

By doing it this way, great amounts of time and energy will not be wasted on bringing habitat after habitat to the surface of the Moon, where they will soon become unserviceable. If habitats are transported from Earth, it will be to put them inside of tunnels.


16 posted on 04/27/2008 10:30:47 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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NO WAR FOR MOON DUST!!!

Bring plenty of duct tape. Just ask Gene Cernan and Jack Schmitt.

Moondust and Duct Tape

17 posted on 04/27/2008 10:46:42 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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It’s more comfortable to land a motorcycle on a diagonal ramp than on a horizontal surface. Although unprepared lunar surface is almost certainly too rough to allow for horizontal landing, I would think that a prepared ramp could be handy.

Actually, if there are a number of habitations at different parts of the moon, I wonder what sort of acceleration/deceleration would be required to “ramp-jump” from one to the other? The jumping vehicle should probably include some rockets for precision guidance, but having takeoff/landing ramps (possibly with catapults and drag cables) might safe a lot of energy.


18 posted on 04/27/2008 11:00:28 AM PDT by supercat
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They wasted all that time and money on the useless space station when they could’a been working on the moon setting up a station there.


19 posted on 04/27/2008 11:02:11 AM PDT by crz
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mine and transport water ice

That will be interesting.

20 posted on 04/27/2008 11:02:45 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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