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Italy Must be Broken Up , Says Berlusconi's Wife
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 4-26-2008 | Malcolm Moore

Posted on 04/25/2008 8:50:51 PM PDT by blam

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To: the_Watchman

The driving force of Italian economics...is the northern one third of the country. These guys know it...they have the facts...and they are now questioning about the various amounts of money that is returned to their region (schools, infrastructure, etc). This is not to say that the central or the southern part of the country makes no money...but the bulk is northern-generated.

Its a wonderful topic of discussion with Italians because they all get into this. I spent two weeks there last year...and its the best starter of a conversation that you can use. I doubt seriously that they can bring themselves to break the country up...because of the Roman history business. Although the northern third folks....would love to dream about their little nation being the biggest per capita money generator of any EU country....so they want to brag.


21 posted on 04/25/2008 9:44:38 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: the_Watchman
Northern Italy is so beautiful, especially the lakes region. And the drive along the coast from France is breathtaking.
22 posted on 04/25/2008 9:50:45 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: blam

Sounds like California.


23 posted on 04/25/2008 9:51:29 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Strategerist

Southern Italy was richer than the North for quite a while after that. In the 12th century, the Norman kingdom in Sicily and Apulia was the richest state in Europe other than the Byzantine Empire.


24 posted on 04/25/2008 10:07:02 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: SatinDoll

The states that foot the bills are states like New York and Connecticut, not Utah and Montana.


25 posted on 04/25/2008 10:10:01 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: B-Chan
Tirol has as much in common with Sicily as Quebec has in common with the Yucatan.

Funny you should mention. There are those who would like to see Quebec and the Yucatan in the same governing body (and everything in between.)

26 posted on 04/25/2008 10:14:01 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Just like Garibaldi... and for similar reasons.


27 posted on 04/25/2008 10:23:23 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: goldstategop

If Italy is divided or partitioned, within 40 years most of the “South” however defined will see the native Italian population become the minority in their own homelands.

With that foothold, Arabisation of the Mediterranean can increase much more rapidly as they take control of “south Italy’s” political and economic reins of power.


28 posted on 04/25/2008 10:34:15 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

So who gets all those World Cups if Italy breaks apart?


29 posted on 04/25/2008 10:37:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: Strategerist
Southern Italy was never the same after Hannibal tramped around it for years, and it’s the reason it’s a mess to this day.

Southern Italy was the prosperous and unified kingdom of Naples when Northern Italy was a morass of foreign occupied areas, the Papal States, and warring city states. Then the Spanish kings took over.

And as we can see from our part of the world, wherever the Spaniards were in charge for 15 minutes has been f$#ked up for the next 500 years, or perhaps forever. However, the Spaniards were also in charge of many regions in Northern Italy, as well. Go figure.

Breaking up Italy seems like a dumb idea to me. Would we think of kicking out Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana just because they absorb more than they contribute in taxes? That would make all of us in Maine very nervous. ( This state is so poor we'd have to join Nova Scotia, or God forbid, Quebec. And after all, was us Maine fellows what won the Civil War. You owe us.)

Besides, Northern Italians are overdressed PIAs. They are more or less like their southern compatriots but refuse to admit it, idiotically believing themselves somewhat different racially. I lived and worked out of Milan, so I know these things. (Loved the place.)

BTW, Hannibal tramped all over Italy. Southern Italy is certainly not a mess, despite what the Lega Lombarda says. It just has a few messy parts of towns, and nothing as bad as Detroit. It's a lot like non-desert California. Fabulous uncrowded beaches. Napoli? Well yeah, that is a mess, but a charming mess with some of the world's greatest museums, very beautiful stylish women and some truly fabulous neighborhoods. LA, but with more slums, much better restaurants, and a whole lot more culture. And boy, is it old!

I like Mr. Berlusconi. I really like Mrs. Berlusconi, especially after watching Mrs. Clinton on TV in her pants suit. But Italy already has federated regions and regional parliaments, which is one reason nothing ever gets done.

When the Southerners ask for more money, instead of breaking up, they could just say "no."

30 posted on 04/25/2008 10:49:28 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (GOP Plank: Pump Domestic Crude. Double refining capacity Coal / METHANOL. Start Building Nukes)
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To: blam

When are these Europeans ever going to learn? They need to improve their system of government, not partition their country geographically.


31 posted on 04/25/2008 11:00:22 PM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
Arabisation

Most of the Arab Muslims in Italy seem to be city types, and there are millions of them. The real danger to Southern Italy is probably more the Albanian Muslim and Eastern European invasion.

The Albanians smuggle thousands of illegal aliens in, and have already taken over abandoned hill towns. Italy, north and south is awash with illegal immigrants, millions of them ...Chinese, VietNamese, Africans of all sorts, Eastern Europeans, Gypsies, and the Albanians. The Left in Italy is much loonier than our looniest Left ... but a reaction to this problem is inevitable, and it ain't gonna be pretty.

32 posted on 04/25/2008 11:08:42 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (GOP Plank: Pump Domestic Crude. Double refining capacity Coal / METHANOL. Start Building Nukes)
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To: buck jarret

< The states that foot the bills are states like New York and Connecticut, not Utah and Montana. >

I’m sorry, but your statement - foot the bills - doesn’t compute; could you please clarify what you mean?

Let me restate my off-the-cuff remark. This politician, Umberto Bossi, reminds me of some of the bluff, direct, no-nonsense politicians that western U.S. states sometime send to Congress.


33 posted on 04/25/2008 11:21:13 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: blam
Emperor Trajan88 gives a thumb's up to the hottie known as Veronica Lario.


34 posted on 04/25/2008 11:24:16 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Clemenza; Clintonfatigued

Seen this ?


35 posted on 04/25/2008 11:47:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: blam

where we are headed...and look how long they have been at it.

who gets Rome?

will Naples be the capital of Italia Sud?


36 posted on 04/25/2008 11:49:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (I wish a real conservative had the balls to win that The Witch does)
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To: cyborg

She’s hot for fiddyone


37 posted on 04/25/2008 11:52:39 PM PDT by wardaddy (I wish a real conservative had the balls to win that The Witch does)
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To: blam

She’s not guilty.


38 posted on 04/25/2008 11:58:41 PM PDT by Doohickey ("We cannot insure victory, but we can deserve it" - Joseph Addison)
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To: wardaddy
who gets Rome?

The Pope, of course. That's who they took it away from. If they're done with it they should give it back.

will Naples be the capital of Italia Sud?

Why not, it was the capital before Risorgimento.

But really, this is all a lot of gum flapping. Nothing’s going to happen.

39 posted on 04/26/2008 12:14:05 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Liberalism: a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.)
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To: blam

If Italy gets broken up, I’ll take the part with Mara Carfagna in it.


40 posted on 04/26/2008 12:28:44 AM PDT by TheWasteLand
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