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25 mothers taken from FLDS ranch now believed to be minors
Chron.com ^ | 4-24-08 | AP

Posted on 04/24/2008 3:01:56 PM PDT by Politicalmom

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To: ansel12
if that is the only source for your argument then at least pluck out the specific page that the article is on.

It is on a time line. I am unaware of how to excerpt from a time line.

At the same time, I don't see why there is a problem with having these people speak out. What is frightening to you about that?

201 posted on 04/25/2008 11:19:36 AM PDT by Howdy there
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To: Howdy there

I stand corrected, though the degree of puberty may be up for discussion. And their access, as per documentation of the compound lifestyle—— there access to the females was nil. Being worked from sun-up to sun-down and watched constantly means they aren’t likely suspects.

However, that still doesn’t excuse the other 300 who are missing.


202 posted on 04/25/2008 11:20:33 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: najida

What 300 hundred missing?


203 posted on 04/25/2008 11:21:28 AM PDT by Howdy there
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To: the808bass

I think I love you;)


204 posted on 04/25/2008 11:21:52 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: Howdy there

This one doesn’t include the last names. I will try to find the one that does.

“The judge rules that children will be identified by numbers. The CPS witness says one girl said Sarah - the girl who called in the original complaint - does exist. One girl said no age limit exists for girls to get married and have children, the witness says.

Witness said they were told at the gate there were no Sarahs, but workers found several on the ranch.

Witness testifies she determined children younger than 17 had given birth to a child or had conceived children on the ranch.”

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/17/live-from-the-courthouse-updates-ON-FLDS-CUSTODY/


205 posted on 04/25/2008 11:23:04 AM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: Paco
There is no defending this and those that do devalue religion and give the “religious right” a BAD NAME.

Amen!

206 posted on 04/25/2008 11:23:29 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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To: Howdy there
No, Doran didn't know that. He spoke with someone on the phone and was given verbal ID.

If the matter was so cut and dried, why did the Texas Rangers go to Arizona later on to investigate?

207 posted on 04/25/2008 11:25:29 AM PDT by Pebcak
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To: Politicalmom

No, you said there were Sarah Jessops found there. Soure THAT.


208 posted on 04/25/2008 11:26:17 AM PDT by Howdy there
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To: greyfoxx39; Paco

Agree & Amen.

I’ll take a moral agnostic over the FLDS blasphemous demonic pedophiles, masquerading as prophets and believers any day.

To those of you who do not understand the morality in this statement - take it up with JR and get me banned - I’m not skeered.


209 posted on 04/25/2008 11:29:11 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: Howdy there

Do the math-— if there are 410+ Children, mostly female, plus 139 ‘wives’ that comes to ~~550..

Remove the 25 teens from the total, plus an generous estimate that 100 of the younger children are male (200 would make it a normal population). You come up with 125 males to about 450 females. Even removing from the count the 25 ‘men’ (I refuse to call the scum fathers)....Birth rates are 50/50 give or take, so there should be about 300 or so more males than are present.


210 posted on 04/25/2008 11:30:10 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: Howdy there

PS,
the more you post, the more posts you avoid answering and the posts you do answer is painting you as Jeff’s boy.


211 posted on 04/25/2008 11:31:58 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: Howdy there
I may not agree with their position on things (and I don’t) but any time YOU think YOU are the speech police and that YOU can decide who’s voice has value, that shows that YOU are not right.

You can’t devalue these children just because you don’t like their parents.

And the propaganda of the cultists that DO devalue these children is worth repeating?

Your denial of agreeing with the cult's position rings hollow.

I leave it to the mods to make the call on the suitability of posts directly from the cult's web page. They don't read every post, and when something like that is posted some of us alert them.

212 posted on 04/25/2008 11:33:18 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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To: najida

There is nothing in nature to explain the imbalance in male/female ratio.

I read where Jeffs had children under the age of 6 removed to a different commune - because they were*uncontaminated*

If boy toddlers with infant sisters were left behind - either brothers or sisters must have been separated from each other and or their mothers. It’s too diabolical to imagine.


213 posted on 04/25/2008 11:39:22 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: the808bass
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214 posted on 04/25/2008 11:47:52 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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To: sodpoodle

The more I read, the more I believe Jeff’s is the anti-christ.

All we are is made via our bonds-— parents, siblings, aunts, uncles etc. We are our ages marked via birthdays. We are who we daydream and create. We become ourselves via play, learning to love and trust, being kids being loved in a safe world.

He’s stolen everything from these kids that make them total beings.


215 posted on 04/25/2008 11:52:52 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: Howdy there

Forget it.

I told you I was hunting further. Yet you get snotty with me.

Guess what, I’m not a slave on some cult compound. I don’t have to jump when you snap.

You are rude, and you’re a jerk. I’m done with you.


216 posted on 04/25/2008 12:06:48 PM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: Politicalmom
Here my FRiend:

http://www.myeldorado.net/Pages/LegalNotices.html

217 posted on 04/25/2008 12:11:02 PM PDT by Pebcak
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To: Howdy there
BTW - You're sourcing from an flds brief. I've seen briefs that allege someone is “unfit to live in a civilized society.” Don't make it so.

A brief is a brief. The above article is a court document.
The court ultimately is the finder of fact.

218 posted on 04/25/2008 12:16:36 PM PDT by Pebcak
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To: Pebcak

Thanks. In that partial list of children, I count one Sara with no last name, and a SARAH JESSOP BARLOW. The exact name on the warrant.


219 posted on 04/25/2008 12:23:49 PM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: Howdy there

“You chose to devote your time and passion to the Jeffs team”

“Absolutely incorrect.”


Flds is Jeffs team, the cult you are working so hard for is Jeffs team.


220 posted on 04/25/2008 12:34:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sons of Helaman- uniformed FLDS who enter houses without knocking and report novels, computers,TVs)
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