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Berliners Face Emotional Vote On Cold War Airlift Site(Templehof, symbol of freedom, may close)
Air Wise ^ | April 24, 2008 | staff

Posted on 04/23/2008 9:29:03 PM PDT by saganite

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I was surprised to see the level of emotion attached to this airport by Berliners. Of course I understand it but I guess recent events have made me cynical regarding Europe. It's refreshing to see that some still remember and honor the Berlin airlift.
1 posted on 04/23/2008 9:29:04 PM PDT by saganite
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"I live right in the entry lane. Wherever I go inside my house, I can't escape the noise," said resident Anne Schmidt, banging drums during a protest march against the airport.

These chowderheads always tee me off. I don't know how old she is, but I am close to certain that airport was there before she moved into her house.

Don't like airplane noise? Don't move next to an airport!

2 posted on 04/23/2008 9:52:58 PM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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Such inner city or downtown airports should be kept open and operating. Midway in Chicago, Heathrow in London, and even Los Angeles International should not follow the now destroyed Stapleton in Denver. Such inner airports can, as the article describes, service the smaller commercial and private aircraft which, as has become painfully obvious, can be hazards to the large commercial operations. Such core airports can help downtowns or inner cities be prosperous.


3 posted on 04/23/2008 9:53:22 PM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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4 posted on 04/23/2008 9:53:58 PM PDT by neb52
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I don’t get it either. Many a people live nearby, perhaps not as close as some in those pictures, DFW International with no problem. Sure there are numbnuts, but they are few number.

They just have to be careful that this situation doesn’t turn into a DFW vs. Love Field thing. Airports are hard to shrink in hard economic times. Every time there is a slump in air travel the DFW International people get the politicos ralled up over closing Love Field. They never complain about Alliance, Meacham or the other small municipal airports in the area and that due to Love Field catering to The Cattle Car Company and other small aviation.


5 posted on 04/23/2008 10:05:58 PM PDT by neb52
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I flew into Tempelhof in 1973 when I was assigned to the Berlin Brigade.


6 posted on 04/23/2008 10:06:20 PM PDT by 04-Bravo
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I had the opportunity to fly into Templehof in the late 90’s. It’s a piece of history and I hope they manage to save it somehow.


7 posted on 04/23/2008 10:09:46 PM PDT by saganite
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I was fortunate enough to fly out of Templehof on a light aircraft in 1989. Sort of a little city “tour”. Tegel was used for commercial flights though.

I count my blessings being stationed in two locations where Americans were welcomed: Bavaria and Berlin.


8 posted on 04/23/2008 10:45:59 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats - Stupid is as stupid do)
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I had some great meals at the NCO club at Templehof, and theirs was the best stocked Audio/Video store.

Teufelsberg is a resort hotel now, there’s less and less of the Berlin I knew left.


9 posted on 04/23/2008 10:59:42 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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Berlin (78-81) and Augsburg (84-88)


10 posted on 04/23/2008 11:01:05 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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It still looks the same from the air.


11 posted on 04/23/2008 11:23:28 PM PDT by Red Steel
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I was fortunate enough to fly out of Templehof on a light aircraft in 1989.

A Porter?

12 posted on 04/23/2008 11:25:27 PM PDT by compuguru (De Oppresso Liber)
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Very true, Nazi or not Templehof is an iconic airport. I would hate to see it closed.

Chicago Midway was almost a goner, now it's passenger traffic exceeds the numbers it had when it was the world's busiest airport.

13 posted on 04/23/2008 11:27:41 PM PDT by OeOeO (Sic Transit Gloria Mundi... Gloria get me a beer,and hurry..)
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I can’t stand Midway. Way to often I have to literally run from one gate across the skywalk to the other side of the highway just to board another plane. It would help if the airlines, mainly ATA or AirTran, did a better job scheduling transfer flights.

Funny thing was the one time I transfered a flight at O’Hare and I went outside the terminal just to look at Chicago and say I had been there. Otherwise I have truly never been to Chicago other than changing planes. LOL!


14 posted on 04/23/2008 11:46:26 PM PDT by neb52
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Looking at the photo I posted I can easily see ways to preserve the building and make better use of the rest of the real estate. Even though there is merit to having a small airport in the center of town. They could even trim things down to one run way and open the other parts for development.

I am surprised that Berlin doesn’t have a major airport. I can completely understand their need to make this move, but if there are three small airports than why have they not closed the other two down before hand? and building BBI, how would that affect Frankfurt Airport?


15 posted on 04/23/2008 11:54:40 PM PDT by neb52
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ATA was one of the worst airlines I ever dealt with, Thankfully they are gone.


16 posted on 04/23/2008 11:55:14 PM PDT by OeOeO (Sic Transit Gloria Mundi... Gloria get me a beer,and hurry..)
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"I live right in the entry lane. Wherever I go inside my house, I can't escape the noise," said resident Anne Schmidt, banging drums during a protest march against the airport.

Never ceases to amaze me: people move in right next to a functioning airport, then start complaining about the noise. Ach du Lieber!

17 posted on 04/23/2008 11:55:55 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: HiJinx

I lived at Tempelhof 3/1973 - 3/1975. I was a RADAR tech in the USAF, worked on the FPS-67 search and FPS-90 height finder RADARs (1946th Communications Squadron). For a time, the “Candy Bomber” (Col. Gail Halvorsen) was our base commander. Also operated Amateur Radio station DA1QU from the top of the most easterly tower.

Best years of my life.


18 posted on 04/24/2008 4:38:46 AM PDT by 109ACS (Humpty Dumpty was pushed!)
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ATA went out of business earlier this month. I think Southwest took over all their gates. They’ll probably do a better job.


19 posted on 04/24/2008 5:10:47 AM PDT by saganite
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Yes I heard about that, but I always get ATA and AirTran confused. Yes The Cattle Car Company should do a better job. They are efficient. But a friend of mine that works there said that their 20 year fuel contract is up at the end of 2008 and the increase in fuel on the new contract will equal their profit (500 million) of last year.


20 posted on 04/24/2008 5:47:18 AM PDT by neb52
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