Rozita Swinton Doesn’t Like the FLDS (abuse call came from her phone)

Dreamin Demon ^ | April 20th, 2008

[P-Marlowe]

IF you have a COMPETENT physician...

ANY licensed physician is, by law, considered to be COMPETENT.... even serial abortionists.

I do believe you owe wideawake an apology.

[svcw]

Welcome back.

[wideawake]

NOT Lincoln...

Again, Lincoln was dead.

But do you really believe that Lincoln, once the Confederacy was dismantled, would have permitted the LDS to run a US federal territory as a theocracy and continue to flaunt its disregard of federal law?

Lincoln's vice-president was of one mind with Lincoln on the matter of enforcement of federal authority and he moved against LDS usurpation of federal power.

His successor - US Grant - completed the job of returning the Utah territory to federal authority. Do you think Lincoln thought that Grant, his handpicked general and the champion of his unconditional surrender policy, had the wrong ideas about insurrectionists?

Had Lincoln lived, he would not have allowed one religious sect to usurp federal authority in federal territory.

[trisham]

The Church allows for possible exceptions for its members when: • Pregnancy results from rape

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Interesting, considering the charges against them.

[commonguymd]

Just wait. People will get more hysterical as time goes on if one can imagine it. I call it the Nancy Grace mob.

[pandoraou812]

A couple of mine, they can HAVE!

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I used to feel that way too. But five of them are young adults & Sassy is only 8 years old & I just would have to say over my dead body would NJ DYFS take her. She is far too bright & will make a wonderful FReeper one day. Glad to see you are back! ~Pandy~

[commonguymd]

That is good point. I was wondering how they got away with the polygamy thing when law forbids it. Just peruse the internet a bit and you find all kinds of polygamy in different forms everywhere - religion aside of course. Clinton comes to mind lol.

[MapleLeafForever]

Colofornian,

You can get off your high horse now. My point is not that polygamy shoud be legalized or even to justify it. You never answered my question? How can our society ignore Adultery (which is illegal) and prosecute polygamy — especially when the polygamists involved all know about it. In both cases the first marriage is being savaged and I would suggest that a case can be made that adultery has even worse social consequences (more broken homes, juvenile diliquents from single parent households etc).

The only reason I can see that society is interested in prosecuting bigamy and polygamy (in these cases where all are willing participants) is because it is a part of a religion.

And don’t give me the underage bit — the underage thing is a different law that I was not even attempting to address.

[MapleLeafForever]

“I do not fear the govt coming in & taking my child.”

Perhaps your neighbors will decide you are a little strange for home-schooling and make one anonomous phone call to the CPS — then we will see if you still hold the position above.

[auboy]

I’ve heard the FLDS actually take good care of the fumarase deficiency children.

The very people who cause fumarase deficiency through their incestuous inbreeding.

Link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2005578/posts

[svcw]

I am unsure why you brought up Catholics but oh well.
The question was “why is wideawake a liar?”
He said lds alow abortion with deformed babies - that is true.
You said lds allow abortions with deformed babies - that is true.
Lds allow abortion with deformed babies - that is true.
Now you wished to clarify the policy “allow” fine but what wideawke said is true.

[Choose Ye This Day]

I believe you’re wrong.

[Choose Ye This Day]

Your tagline is very appropriate. Just keep “substituting your own reality.”

[Rome2000]

evidence of prolonged and ritualized sexual abuse on the Yearning For Zion compound, even down to a marital bed in the temple itself and many minor children who are pregnant or have had babies by much older relatives.

Thats just Mormonism, Mitt Romney could tell us all about it.

[Choose Ye This Day]

To what charges against the LDS Church are you referring?

[Choose Ye This Day]

What the hell is wrong with you people?

[svcw]

Cute.
But it still does not give answer to the question, “why is wideawke a liar?”

[svcw]

Even if that were true - so? Does that justify the killing of babies?

[pandoraou812]

I doubt it. And if the NJ DYFS does to come to my house I have done nothing wrong. I have a clean house, I am drug & alcohol free & I don't have sister wives. Plus my neighbors love us. I would not however let them in after this whole mess. I would call my daughter's God father who is a big time lawyer & get him over here. I also would video tape the whole interview. FYI NJ is one of the best states on homeschooling. According to my DYFS neighbor more time is wasted on false calls then should be not to mention money spent on false calls.. However all calls have to be investigated in case of abuse. Once in the ranch TX LEO found cases of abuse with pregnant young woman. So yes I do hold the same opinion. If the calls go unchecked children can be in danger. So I am fine with DYFS/CPS coming & knocking on my door . Anyway before they knock unless its summertime they will go talk to my child at her school. Plus they are known to go talk to neighbors. I have dealt with DYFS when I took in 2 boys. They had to check me out & found me to be fine. And NO I never took a dime in raising my boys. It was very simple. I filled out forms, they looked around & talked to my neighbors & friends. I don't know what they do now as this was over 14 yrs ago. For the most part NJ DYFS is a big mess. But I would rather they checked each call out then had children that were being forced to have sex with old goats & have teen pregnancies. Not to mention the abuse & brainwashing these children suffer.

No answer I see to the 24 hr manned guard tower huh? Or to the parents who are fleeing the ranch so they don't have to give DNA samples? Or to the abuse of babies & children having children. Nor to to the fact families are ripped away from their fathers & given to new men? Why not answer my questions? No answers? Why not?

Take my child & I would comply with whatever they asked of me not abandon my child & flee. Seems strange to me that any loving normal parent would do so!

[Choose Ye This Day]

Did I ever use the term, “liar”?