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Attack on an American volunteer by anti-Carrefour mob in Zhuzhou, Hunan
Shanghaiist ^ | 4/22/2008 | Kenneth Tan

Posted on 04/22/2008 6:31:59 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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Looks like some Western expats are getting an eye-opening experience about one risk of living in China. (Paging Jim Rogers). Nonetheless, this is a minor incident as far as Chinese mobs go. During the Boxer Rebellion, they hacked to pieces (i.e. dismembered) tens of thousands of Chinese Christians, together with dozens of Western missionaries.

And then there was that other, more recent, mob scene - the Cultural Revolution, where mobs of Chinese got together to humiliate and torture to death their political adversaries - at the suggestion of the late Chairman Mao. Chinese propaganda aside, there’s a reason that the Chinese empire remains intact, and way larger than it was at inception 2000 years ago - and it’s not the innate pacifism of the average Chinese.

1 posted on 04/22/2008 6:32:00 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

A BTT. You brought up the Boxer Rebellion before I could. Mob mentality is a very strange thing - some of those people were attacked by their friends, who were sorry afterwards. I think they were sincere. That isn’t much comfort if you’re dead.


2 posted on 04/22/2008 6:36:58 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Zhang Fei

Wow. The Summer Olympics will be interesting.


3 posted on 04/22/2008 6:40:33 PM PDT by inkling
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To: Zhang Fei

For anyone who is as confused as I was: Carrefour is France’s answer to Wal-Mart. They are a huge discount chain with stores in southern Europe, Asia, and South America.


4 posted on 04/22/2008 6:43:00 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus
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To: Zhang Fei

Even the Chinese expats here in the US got violent over someone they thought had attacked an Olympic torch carrier, and there was a large Chinese protest a day or two ago as well.

I think the Chinese government had better stop fanning the anti-Tibetan patriotism or it will kill the Olympics. Who will want to visit China and risk getting mobbed?


5 posted on 04/22/2008 6:44:21 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus
Carrefour is France’s answer to Wal-Mart.

It goes beyond that. Carrefour is the second largest retailer in the world. Wal Mart is No. 1. Wal Mart is probably giddy that its primary competitor in China, Carrefour, is taking hits like this because Sarkozy decided to boycott the Olympics opening ceremony. WMT only has about 100 stores in China, but is hoping to expand in a big way because of the Chinese enthusiasm for its stores.

I've been to one Wal Mart and two Carrefours in China. My impression is that the Wal Mart had longer lines, better displays and less chintzy merchandise. Although the chintz factor is higher than it is stateside, because the average Chinese doesn't have much purchasing power.

6 posted on 04/22/2008 7:00:04 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

that is the same name used in Brazil (Portuguese)


7 posted on 04/22/2008 7:17:02 PM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: Zhang Fei
I wrote to you last week to avoid talking about the three 'T's' and other controversial topics in China now.

... and the three T's are?

8 posted on 04/22/2008 7:18:38 PM PDT by glock rocks ( Woof.)
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Wal Mart had longer lines, better displays and less chintzy merchandise. .......... Could it be that they sell cheap but fine quality products imported from America?


9 posted on 04/22/2008 7:19:26 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( Clinton/Obama .. Obama/ Clinton ... Mc Cain/Obama .. Mc Cain/Clinton ... What a Choice!? Puleeeze!)
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To: Zhang Fei
From here on out, there is no need to put yourself into this situation.

That's right, the answer is very simple, leave china.
10 posted on 04/22/2008 7:19:37 PM PDT by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: Zhang Fei
网友最新回复:昨天被打的外国人是我们学校的外教别个是美国的,周末到家乐福买东西,结果被打得上不了课了.今天的课全改自习了.作孽呢?他平时蛮好的一个人很活泼,估计以后都不敢来中国教书了.呵呵.多讲道理,少动手.今天接教育局通知:所有学生都被戒严了,不允许出校门,要家长来接才可以哦

I agree entirely. Great point. I've been saying this for years but nobody would listen to me.

11 posted on 04/22/2008 7:24:26 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Need to print this and send it to a couple of college students planning to go on a mission trip to China this summer.


12 posted on 04/22/2008 7:29:23 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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This is how communist inciting works in China. First, Communists encourage and abet mass protest and mob activities. Soon they heat up and getting violent. When it starts to boil over, the communists step in again and quell the mob. In the process, they pretend that mob violence is just spontaneous event by ordinary Chinese, and they pretend that they had always been on the side of reason and caution. However, their rhetoric leading up to the mob violence is usually anything but.

Communists stoked the flame and incite mob violence, sending "message" to intended target audience, in this case, pro-Tibet Westerners. Once its purpose is served, they step in and put an end to it.

The same thing happened with anti-Japanese protest a couple of years ago. As with Cultural Revolution. Red Guards were put down by PLA once they outlived their usefulness(by that time, Red Guards were out of control and even in factional fights among themselves.)

13 posted on 04/22/2008 7:43:38 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I recently read Orwell’s Homage to Catalonia. One thing that came through loud and clear, was the Reds’ willingness to eliminate former allies, like the Socialists, once they had outlived their usefulness. Examples like yours and mine abound in the history of Leftist totalitarians.


14 posted on 04/22/2008 8:04:18 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Bitter, Gun-totin', Typical White American)
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15 posted on 04/22/2008 8:30:31 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: swmobuffalo

Yes, have a young friend going to China in 2 weeks. For a long stay. I have tried to warn him. He laughs it all off. I keep telling him - to be so careful - that China is not the USA. (He is from Europe but has been living in US).

Will send him this.


16 posted on 04/22/2008 8:54:34 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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Some Chinese got this treatment in the US in early part of WWII. 90% of Americans at that time had NO understanding of any difference between (sic) a "Nip", or a "Chinaman". They just wanted to kick the crap of of SOMEBODY for Pearl Harbour, and some unfortunate Chinese who were the LAST people to be in support of Imperialist Japan's adventures, got caught up in the violence and suffered in the US (West Coast).

Most Chinese would not know a Norwegian from a French from an American from a Brit. A waiguo ren is a waiguo ren, and can be conveniently boxed into being the nationality of whomever the Enemy of China is at the time.

Worthful advice at least 2000 years old: Avoid large, angry, irrational Chinese crowds--when they are pissed off about ANYTHING from The West.

17 posted on 04/22/2008 8:55:47 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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Some Chinese got this treatment in the US in early part of WWII. 90% of Americans at that time had NO understanding of any difference between (sic) a "Nip", or a "Chinaman". They just wanted to kick the crap of of SOMEBODY for Pearl Harbour, and some unfortunate Chinese who were the LAST people to be in support of Imperialist Japan's adventures, got caught up in the violence and suffered in the US (West Coast).

I can understand an outsized response if France had bombed the Shanghai Naval Base, destroyed the East Sea Fleet, and killed 3,000 PLA Navy sailors (the equivalent of what the Japanese did to Pearl Harbor). But what France did was play host to pro- and anti-Tibetan demonstrators and have a President who hasn't quite decided if he will attend the Olympic opening ceremony. Pearl Harbor this ain't.

18 posted on 04/22/2008 9:03:53 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Do you know what the three T’s are (referred to in the article)? I’m guessing Tibet, Tiananmen, and ...


19 posted on 04/22/2008 9:13:30 PM PDT by glock rocks ( Woof.)
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To: Zhang Fei

the Cultural Revolution


20 posted on 04/22/2008 9:13:35 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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