If calls about sect were fake, will it matter?[FLDS]

Houston Chronicle ^ | 21 Apr 2008 | GARY SCHARRER and LISA SANDBERG

[burroak]

Susie

That’s just warped.

Brings to mind why men die before their wives-—because they waaant to.

[brytlea]

I have no idea what you’re talking about.
susie

[patton]

“I Am Not A Lawyer”

[trisham]

You’re not alone.

[brytlea]

Ah, thank you! I’ve seen it several times. Trying to keep up, but I’m getting old.... ;)
susie

[brytlea]

I think it was an insult, but it was a little obtuse for me...
susie

[norton]

in principal I agree with you.

The sect will have a bucket load of documentation and testimony to just those ends: kids can be spiritually married (just as Nuns are spiritually married) without the legal implications of underage sex. If that is the situation, and there are no dissenters in the flock, the membership has a case.

How they handle a population that includes far more women than men, lots of kids, and communal living, should make for an interesting legal knot. (Largely why it has not been followed aggressively heretofore)

On the other hand (I use that a lot lately), if Male citizen "A" lives in a house with female citizens "b", "c", "d" and so forth, with a dozen or so kids doing the chores - the state has a case for what is in fact a victimless crime.

My point was that polygamy is easier to prove and immediately illegal, even if it could not be proved in court it would make a far better means of access than rumors of child abuse.

The interesting part, aside from the 'communal' element in original Christianity, is that if no one claimed to be married (it's "only" a commune) the government would have to prove some other form of institutionalized rape.

[brytlea]

I don’t understand why you are focusing on polygamy, but maybe I’m just tired.
susie

[Paridel]

I think we need to be culturally sensitive here...

There is a reason that Utah has the firing squad and not the electric chair. Something about the need for blood to be spilled for the convicted individual to be forgiven.

-paridel

[ktscarlett66]

I don’t believe they have separate ‘houses’, like a split level development with regular street addresses. They live in dormatories, that look very much like 2 story motels. From what I saw on an arial photo of the compound, there are 8 dorms that house all the families. So 400+ kids, how many moms and men, say just roughly 600 people, that’s an average of 75 people per building. Probably mail is delivered in bulk to the compound, I doubt they have their own separate addresses. So there’s no way they could target one particular room in the ‘motel’ set up since they probably don’t have room numbers or individual legal addresses.

[ktscarlett66]

You’re allowed to do both! ‘Innocent until proven guilty’ refers to the legal system. It means the burden is on the State to prove that the person did indeed do what he’s accused of. They carry the burden of proof. However, ‘innocent until proven guilty’ doesn’t apply to public opinion. Individual citizens are allowed to make any guilty or not decision in their own mind that they want to.

[norton]

Because it does not take a questionable phone call from another state in order to make a case for entry?

It does not carry the knee jerk response that child endangerment (read - premature sex) guarantees?

Get some rest, we're probably both stressing.