Posted on 04/22/2008 8:57:26 AM PDT by PurpleMan
From a right a wrong perspective, since this is in support of Israel - the chosen people, the apple of God's eye, his covenant people, who he will make a great nation - doesn't that make what he did just fine?
79-85, He wasn’t charged util twenty three years after the fact. Outstanding investigative work. The Chinese must be having a ball over here.
No. If in fact he did what he’s accused of, he deserves the full punishment of the laws, just like Jonathan Pollard.
Can’t we keep religion out of this one time? What startles me more is that we apparently go after cases where intelligence is given to Israel, but don’t charge the terrorist-appeasers and enablers of our enemies with treason. It’s hypocrisy. Prosecute Carter, Brezinsky, Clinton, Berger, Kennedy, Albright, Murtha and Pelosi... then we can talk about a US mechanical engineer.
Do you think we should be giving Israel weapons technology? On the one hand, I greatly sympathize with the tiny little democracy surrounded by people that hate her. On the other hand, they give military help to China - not exactly a freedom-supporting action.
HELL NO!!!
If you're really having trouble figuring this out ...
Delta is ready when you are.
This went on twenty-five to thirty years ago and he’s just now being prosecuted? He must have done something recently that upset someone in our government. I’m curious about what kind of evidence they have if it was just him and an Israeli operative doing the spying.
Maybe this guy wants a square named after him in Jerusalem just like Pollard. A Jerusalem square will be "symbolically" dedicated to Jonathan Pollard ahead of US President George W. Bush's upcoming visit to Israel.
That was under the Clinton Admin... which itself was selling out military knowledge to the Chinese. A bit hypocritical to accuse Israel of what we were doing aswell. To this day the US' appeases China and aids it's economic rise. Not exactly freedom-supporting either.
The moral equivalence argument is worthless in this case, so save it.
“Can’t we keep religion out of this one time.”
Why?
This guy’s Jewish. For God’ sake, hi name is Ben-ami Kadish.
More on him:
Ben-Ami grew up in what was then Palestine and fought with the Hagana, the underground military organization that operated in Eretz Yisrael from 1920 to 1948. He also served in both the British and American military during World War II and is an ex-commander of the Jewish War Veterans Post 609 in Monroe. The couple is also active in the Jewish Federation of Greater Middlesex County.
http://www.njjewishnews.com/njjn.com/101906/sxPondsCouple.html
No -— he’s a criminal.
And I say that as a person who (because of a recent court ruling) is probably going to become an Israeli citizen.
But we don't know that, do we? But if he is tried and found guilty (until then, he is innocent) shouldn't he get the same punishment as others who have spied for Canada, UK, France, Phillipines, Greece and Ecuador?
In my world anyone convicted of spying would get a fair trial and upon conviction a first class firing squad regardless of country they spied for or motive.
Jonathan Pollard should be dead, not a cause celebre.
He's no better than the Rosenbergs and should have been treated exactly the same.
L
Nope. Sorry if the truth offends you that we are apparently accepting supporting our enemies at the highest level over several decades while prosecuting someone who aided Israel thirty years ago.
Jonathan Pollard is the only person in the history of the United States to receive a life sentence for spying for an American ally.
On November 21, 2007, Pollard entered the 23rd year of his life sentence, with no end in sight.
The maximum sentence today for such an offence is 10 years.
The median sentence for this offence is 2 to 4 years.
Name Country Spied For Sentence/Punishment Time Served Before Release*
Jonathan Pollard Israel Life imprisonment
Michael Schwartz Saudi Arabia Discharged from Navy No time served.
Peter Lee China 1 year in halfway house No jail time.
Ronald Montaperto China 3 months
Samuel Morison Great Britain 2 years 3 months
Phillip Selden El Salvador 2 years
Steven Baba South Africa 8 years; reduced to 2 years 5 months
Sharon Scranage Ghana 5 years; reduced to 2 years 8 months
Jean Baynes Phillipines 41 months 15 months
Abdul Kader Helmy Egypt 4 years 2 years
Geneva Jones Liberia 37 months
Frederick Hamilton Ecuador 37 months
Joseph Brown Phillipines 6 years
Michael Ray Aquino Phillipines 6 years and 4 months
Michael Allen Phillipines 8 years
Robert Kim South Korea 9 years 7 years
Leandro Aragoncillo Phillipines 10 years
Thomas Dolce South Africa 10 years 5.2 years
Steven Lalas Greece 14 years
Poor, suffering, abused Jonny-boy ...
Hang 'em all.
He got off easy. In my world he'd be dead already. And so would everyone else on your list.
Period.
L
I don't see a whole lot of folks banging away about spying for UK, Canada, ROK, Philippines etc. being a good thing.
But we get a few very vocal confused folks whining that "it's Israel, so it's OK".
BS!
It's not OK, and their spies need to see a punishment that conveys the message clearly: Betraying your country is not OK. Ever. For anybody.
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