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Opposition Is Becoming Vocal On Damascus Liquor Question (Virginia)
Bristol Herald Courier ^ | April 19, 2007 | Debra McCown

Posted on 04/20/2008 5:56:40 AM PDT by don-o

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To: pgkdan

I agree with you. In fact, at one time I was a “sola scriptura” myself. Then, I grew up enough to actually think it through and see the myriad weaknesses in that position.


41 posted on 04/20/2008 9:48:14 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30.)
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To: bmwcyle

Like what, Bm?


42 posted on 04/20/2008 10:05:24 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: southern rock

Actually it does, if you get draconian enough. Even if you can’t prevent children from getting alcohol, you try to push back the time they get it. Drinking at 20 will probably hurt you less than drinking at 12.

A lot of alcohol and tobacco consumption by minors was curtailed locally by the Sheriff office sending underage agents into stores. If they were able to buy either, the store would be hit with a $500 fine, first time. Second time, double it. I think the max was $5000. In short order, stores were carding everyone, even old people.

However, stores could get a little relief if they spotted an adult providing alcohol to a minor. If the police or deputies nabbed the minor with alcohol, the store would show who bought it for them on surveillance video. The police and Sheriff would leave the store alone for a while.

No doubt some kids will get alcohol. But if instead of treating it as a right of passage, you clamp down, a lot fewer kids will become alcoholics as adults.


43 posted on 04/20/2008 10:09:29 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Emperor Palpatine

By what logic? If at eighteen they defend their country, should they also be allowed to use heroin? Or even just smoke some good old marijuana?

This “right of passage” crap is just crap. The USMC will kick you out for getting a tattoo, because you are damaging USMC property. The entire military will lean on you if you smoke, because it screws you up. Alcohol kills damn near as many military personnel as does enemy fire.

Alcohol is such a problem in the Army, that in the 1980s, they seriously considered taking anyone diagnosed as an alcoholic or alcohol abuser out of any leadership position for six months after they were sober, as it was shown that serious alcohol consumption damages the judgment center of your brain, and it takes that long to recover. They couldn’t do it, because alcohol abuse was so pervasive.

Alcohol does not make you a man, it makes you a cripple.


44 posted on 04/20/2008 10:17:24 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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But if instead of treating it as a right of passage, you clamp down, a lot fewer kids will become alcoholics as adults.

That the lame, out of touch older generation tries to keep it away from them is exactly why alcohol is a rite of passage to most teens. Crack down harder and you just increase the appeal.

Cracking down all the way to prison time and home invasions in ski masks hasn't achieved any notable success in diminishing the appeal of pot.

45 posted on 04/20/2008 10:25:08 AM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Oh, so they’re good enough to die for their country, but no able enough to have a beer?

Flawed logic.


46 posted on 04/20/2008 12:44:10 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

My, my, my...

What an authoritarian little statist you are.

You sir, are a fool.


47 posted on 04/20/2008 12:45:40 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Wrong again. I didn’t advocate that my local Sheriff’s office did this. Nor did I push the USMC to punish Marines for getting tattoos.

All I pointed out was that it worked.

Interesting that you think it is “statist” to punish a store for selling liquor or cigarettes to children. Unless you trust the judgment of a 12 year old to buy a quart of vodka.


48 posted on 04/20/2008 1:48:04 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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