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Hunting Ban Being Discussed in Colorado!
NRA - ILA ^ | April 18, 2008 | NA

Posted on 04/19/2008 12:32:56 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: SkyDancer
Why am I not surprised about this?

In an environmental class I took several years ago I argued that the environmental movement is heading down the path in keeping people out of the woods, lakes, mountains, deserts and streams.

My professor thought I was extreme.

I continue to maintain that is their goal.

81 posted on 04/20/2008 4:57:51 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: I got the rope; moondoggie

The state Health Department says South Dakotans who will be working outdoors as the weather warms should take precautions against hantavirus.

The primary carrier of the disease in South Dakota is the deer mouse, which is found statewide. People are infected when they breathe in the aerosolized virus from droppings, urine or saliva of rodents.

The lungs can fill with fluid, causing respiratory failure.

South Dakota has reported 13 cases, including four deaths, since 1993. Nationwide, more than 465 cases have been reported during that period.

http://www.ksfy.com/news/local/17942589.html


82 posted on 04/20/2008 7:05:32 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: tubebender

Ya can’t have to many shotguns - I only have three.


83 posted on 04/20/2008 7:09:09 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: I got the rope; fish hawk; redpoll; PGalt; Osage Orange; MtnClimber

Not true , but if it were accurate...that is ok with you ?

” The only people getting hanta virus are native americans living in third world conditions.”


84 posted on 04/20/2008 7:10:44 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: I got the rope; fanfan; neverdem; Carry_Okie; GMMAC; girlangler

The Moose Jaw Times Herald

Deer mice may look like cute, cuddly little creatures, but these rodents actually carry a deadly disease known as hantavirus.

According to the population health branch of the Ministry of Health, there have been 18 confirmed cases of hantavirus in the province since 1994, including one in a rural area of the Five Hills Health Region in 2002.

Although infection is rare, 40 to 50 per cent of those who contract the disease will die.

“There is no vaccination for hantavirus,” said Dr. Mark Vooght, Medical Health Officer for Five Hills Health Region.

Cottage owners, farmers and campground and cabin operators are most at risk because spring cleanup of unused rural buildings disturbs deer mice who may have nested there during the winter.

Half of all known cases in Saskatchewan were traced back to rural or farm settings.

Hantavirus — which causes a lung infection called Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome — can be contracted by inhaling airborne particles of saliva, urine or excrement from infected rodents, as well as through direct contact with broken skin or eye membranes, eating or drinking contaminated food or water or being bitten by an infected rodent.

http://www.mjtimes.sk.ca/index.cfm?sid=125945&sc=3


85 posted on 04/20/2008 7:14:54 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: JDoutrider

I live in the South end of the Willamette Valley: liberal heaven and I jack ‘em up, every chance I get. >:-}


86 posted on 04/20/2008 7:24:06 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: I got the rope

The prairie dog is going the way of the American Bison, the black bear, the red wolf, gray wolf, black footed ferret, and the jaguar.


Which “way” is that? You’re just making this stuff up, aren’t you?

Fact is, people shoot the dogs because the private property owners like them to. Never mind why the private owner like them to. That’s none of your business, really.

Shooters are happy to do it because it is fun and rewarding to develop important skills, and to enjoy the fellowship of other shooters. Shooting the dogs is particularly satisfying because one knows one is providing a service, and because the dogs make a perfect target, standing up still at appropriate distances to make the effort satisfying.

I have paid to fly cross country and paid a fee to the landowner to shoot their dogs. Don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it. And it can be fun for kids, too, but it makes them more mature, so calling it “childish” is quite contrary to the facts.


87 posted on 04/20/2008 7:26:15 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Guns donÂ’t kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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To: I got the rope
Apology accepted here and one offered back to you IGTR. It just struck me wrong living on the edge of a whitetail PD colony that is 4 miles wide and 8 miles long. This is one of many that I am aware of on the high plains.

I really don't want you dead or necessarily the dogs but as they won't quit eating or move to government owned land that leaves little recourse. My family has to constantly be on the alert for another denizen of the colony; prairie rattlers that for whatever reason come into the yard, probably for water but "we must have the garden".

Lets have a better day.

88 posted on 04/20/2008 7:30:15 AM PDT by Dust in the Wind (Fund A Red Meat Eatery Regularly)
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To: huldah1776; neverdem

Plague, is caused by bacteria called Yersinia pestis. Onset of plague is usually 2 to 6 days after a person is exposed. Initial symptoms include fever, headache, and general illness, followed by the development of painful, swollen regional lymph nodes. The disease progresses rapidly and the bacteria can invade the bloodstream, producing severe illness, called plague septicemia.

The infection of the lung is termed plague pneumonia, and it can be transmitted to others through the expulsion of droplets by coughing. For plague pneumonia patients, the death rate is over 50%.

Plague is transmitted from animal to animal and from animal to human by the bites of infective fleas. Less frequently, the organism enters through a break in the skin by direct contact with tissue or body fluids of a plague-infected animal, for instance, in the process of skinning a rabbit or other infected animal.

Plague is also transmitted by inhaling infected droplets expelled by coughing, by a person or animal, especially domestic cats, with pneumonic plague.

Human plague cases in the U.S. have been sporadic cases acquired from wild rodents or their fleas. Rock squirrels and their fleas are the most frequent sources of human infection in the southwestern states.

For the Pacific states, the California ground squirrel and its fleas are the most common source. Many other rodent species, for instance, prairie dogs, wood rats, chipmunks, and other ground squirrels and their fleas, suffer plague outbreaks and some of these occasionally serve as sources of human infection.

Deer mice and voles are thought to maintain the disease in animal populations but are less important as sources of human infection. Other less frequent sources of infection include wild rabbits, wild carnivores, and even antelopes, which pick up their infections from wild rodent outbreaks. Domestic cats (and sometimes dogs) are readily infected by fleas or from eating infected wild rodents. Cats may serve as a source of infection to persons exposed to them.

Pets may also bring plague-infected fleas into the home. Between outbreaks, the plague bacterium is believed to circulate within populations of certain species of rodents without causing excessive mortality. Such groups of infected animals serve as silent, long-term reservoirs of infection.

http://www.nps.gov/public_health/inter/info/factsheets/fs_plague.htm


89 posted on 04/20/2008 7:30:26 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: stormer

does euthanizing four horses due to broken legs from ground squirrels apply, or is this just prairie dogs?


90 posted on 04/20/2008 7:35:07 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: I got the rope
"The only people getting hanta virus are native americans living in third world conditions."

I'm going to call BS on you on this IGTR. Stats say otherwise. They may be native Americans just as I am but to say only American Indians living in third world conditions are contracting HV is off the wall. 8^)

91 posted on 04/20/2008 7:38:01 AM PDT by Dust in the Wind (Fund A Red Meat Eatery Regularly)
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To: I got the rope

They cycle great in all of my .22 firearms.


92 posted on 04/20/2008 7:38:41 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: neverdem

Another state that will follow itself to destruction like Kalifornia.

WAAAAAY too many yuppie city slickers who don’t understand the hard work of ranchers and how a pesky varmint can destroy a lifetime of work.

These are called varmints for a reason- they are NOT a food source for humans, and they are destructive to other food sources for humans. Don’t expect they will ever be extinct, but their numbers need to be controlled. If not, there will be an outcry in the near future that there are toooooo many of them and the expensive landscaping the yuppies treasure is at risk.
It all depends on whose bull is being gored.


93 posted on 04/20/2008 9:10:49 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Dust in the Wind

I know of three cases in Arizona...all native...and I know a few cases of biologists contacting the disease. I know that there are more native cases I just don’t have the specifics. The specific carrier for HV is the white footed mouse (Peromyscus leucopus). It is a grainavore.


94 posted on 04/20/2008 9:11:18 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope
The only people getting hanta virus are native americans living in third world conditions.

I'm trying to figure out if you're really ignorant or if you're just playing the contrarian?

We've had many deaths of teens in our area due to the hantavirus.

It's a mountain area where most folks have horse ranches.

The young folks who died contracted the virus while cleaning the stables.

For your information, poisoning deer mice is next to useless because the virus is contracted from the feces of the rodents.

In two of the cases, the kids were wearing painting masks to protect themselves from the dust. Didn't help.

Check out the 4 Corners region sometime and the death toll there.

People who are dying are not living in the Third World.

On top of everything else.....you're an elitist.

Dem in disguise????

95 posted on 04/20/2008 9:21:14 AM PDT by moondoggie
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To: george76
Thanks for the info, George.

Maybe "our friend" will learn something, but I doubt it:-)

96 posted on 04/20/2008 9:24:31 AM PDT by moondoggie
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To: moondoggie; I got the rope; girlangler; LucyT; Calpernia; SunkenCiv
" The only people getting hanta virus are native americans living in third world conditions. "

Janet Stahl and her husband, Robert, lost their 25-year-old son, Paul, to Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome...

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97 posted on 04/20/2008 9:31:26 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: moondoggie

Not an elitist...I’m truly concerned about the native species of this land being wiped out by stupidity. Prairie dogs are not carriers of HV. How many times are we going to change the subject here. We’ve gone from protecting horses, to bubonic plague, to protecting crops, and now Haunta virus. Jeesh. Give it up. The prairie dog is just about wiped out. It’s numbers are so low now I will place a bet that it will probably go extinct soon.

When that happens we can chalk up another species for the “lesser of two evils” concept that was started in the 1800’s on the native people of this land.


98 posted on 04/20/2008 9:36:59 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Ilya Mourometz

Prairie dogs are vermin in cattle country and should be exterminated with prejudice.


99 posted on 04/20/2008 9:38:57 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Carbon is the fifth most abundant element on the planet.)
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To: george76

Still not a reason to wipe out the prairie dog...or the white footed deer mouse.


100 posted on 04/20/2008 9:44:41 AM PDT by I got the rope
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