Seven Steps Progressives Must Take To Close The Gun Gap [Barf Alert]

Third Way (formerly Americans For Gun Safety) ^ | 2006 | Jim Kessler, Vice President for Policy

[absolootezer0]

If “progressives” really support gun-rights, why are they banned in all the big blue state cities run by “progressives”?

guns aren't banned hun, they are just subject to "reasonable regulation."
you know, no semi-autos, no high cap mags, no handguns, register to own a long gun, keep it trigger locked/ de-activated, and in a locked cabinet.. that's all reasonable right?

[Redcloak]

The Message: I take a back seat to no one in support of Second Amendment rights, but those rights do not extend to terrorists and criminals.

Translation: I will defend to the death your right to be licensed to keep an approved, single shot, target rifle (Kept securely locked up and disassembled at an approved gun club, of course!); but, these rights do not extend to those criminals and terrorists who want to keep dangerous weapons like handguns, sniper rifles, and other assault weapons in their homes.

The problem isn't the way they frame their message. The problem is their message.

[Mrs.Z]

Everything on the list is ridiculous, but the registration (costing HUNDREDS of $$$ is particularly onus.)

[absolootezer0]

hundreds? ouch. i chafe at even having to register have a "safety inspection certificate" for my handguns when its free. fortunately, MI has been slowly coming out of the dark ages of gun control due to a pro-gun AG.

[Joe Brower]

So the rabid antigunners at "Americans for Gun Safety" have changed their name to "Third Way", eh? Tells you things in how they have to keep altering their cover to fool the sheeple.

"Gun owners believe that progressives are anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment, and do not respect the values of gun owners"

No! Really!? I can't imagine why that would be so...

[Pistolshot]

You can put as much lipstick on that pig as you want, Jim Kessler, it's STILL anti-gun policy that you are after.

And only the foolish and ignorant will believe you.

[Puppage]

however there is a significant opportunity for progressives to gain gun owner support with a moderate message

Two words: MY ASS!

[from occupied ga]

In fact, we should begin “My gun, my friend” classes right away

As in "This is my rifle. There are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life?"

[taxcontrol]

I think that Military oriented charter schools would be a good start.

[hattend]

Third Way... good greif!

[Travis McGee]

"And then pigs will fly."

[blackie]

Buy lotsa ammo!!!!

[paul51]

• Improving the background check system (83% all, 89% gun owners) • Closing gun show loophole (82% all, 80% gun owners) • Renewing assault weapons ban (71% all, 67% gun owners)

Don't believe it

[from occupied ga]

I think that Military oriented charter schools would be a good start.

I disagree. There isn't any reason to limit that attitude to the military. Every free person should have the same ideas about guns.

[cryptical]

Step one... lie about what we really believe until there are enough of us to finally kill off the Second Amendment.

Bump.

These progressives take the long view, if they push their message long enough people will forget what their rights really are, and won't squawk when they're taken away "for your own safety".

[wastedyears]

[B4Ranch]

I have difficulty believing this :

Consider the strong support among gun owners for the following messages from a Democratic candidate: “I take a back seat to no one in support of Second Amendment rights, but I also support requiring criminal background checks at gun shows and continuing the ban on assault weapons.” (Supported by 83% of gun owners)

[jdege]

You can put as much lipstick on that pig as you want, Jim Kessler, it's STILL anti-gun policy that you are after.

Yep.

If they really believe that the 2nd protects an individual right, and have no problem with law-abiding citizens owning guns for recreation and/or self-defense, they'd be fighting against policies that make it more difficult for the law-abiding to own guns at the same time that they were fighting for policies that would make it more difficult for criminals to own guns.

I live in Minneapolis, where the city zoning laws make it impossible for anyone to operate a gun store. The last FFL operating in Minneapolis stopped selling guns after years of lawsuits. It began the day after he filed for a business license - the city rezoned the area where the property he had leased to forbid gun sales.

He fought in court, and won, because he was grandfathered.

So the city bribed his landlord into not renewing his lease - handed said landlord a pile full of redevelopment money if he were to kick the FFL out on his ear.

Looking for a place to relocate, the FFL found that the city had put in place zoning rules that left no place where a gun store could be operated. Everyplace was either too close to a residential area, a church, or a school, or was owned by the City, or by some long-established business.

So he set up in a new location, was sued, and lost.

Now the question is, where are these so-called moderates when these sorts of abuses occur?

[Old Teufel Hunden]

The Democrats can start taking back the gun issue by passing a law requiring all public school children to recite the Marine Corps Rifle Creed before the start of school:

This is my rifle.
There are many like it, but this one is MINE.
My rifle is my best friend. It is my life.
I must master it as I must master my life.
My rifle without me is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless.
I must fire my rifle true.
I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me.
I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...
My rifle and myself know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire,
the noise of our bursts, nor the smoke we make.
We know it is the hits that count. We will hit...
My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life.
Thus, I will learn it as a brother.
I will learn its weaknesses, its strengths, its parts, its accessories,
its sights, and its barrel.
I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage.
I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready.
We will become part of each other. We will...
Before God I swear this creed.
My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country.
We are the masters of our enemy.
We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until there is no enemy, but PEACE.

[Greystoke]

Gosh, this has suer changed my mind! I’m vot’in Obama! /sarc