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AP-Yahoo poll shows McCain winning back unhappy Republicans
AP ^ | Apr 17, 2008 | ALAN FRAM and TREVOR TOMPSON

Posted on 04/17/2008 6:10:40 AM PDT by tlb

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To: Nervous Tick
By the way, I like the “Business Ethics” on your homepage.

Thank you. You are welcome to contribute to it if you can come up with others...

141 posted on 04/19/2008 12:27:53 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

Whatever. You might as well go and vote for Obama then because that is what your doing basically.

And after 4 years of Obama your going to be wishing you voted for McCain after what he will do to this country.


142 posted on 04/19/2008 1:32:13 PM PDT by faithinchaos (eternal pessimist, recovering optimist)
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To: faithinchaos
nd after 4 years of Obama your going to be wishing you voted for McCain after what he will do to this country.

I will never, never "wish I had voted for McCain". I will laugh with glee the day he and his Socialist/Globalist cohorts slip onto the trash heap of history. What they are doing to this country is no better than what the Democrats will do, and at least it will be the Democrats doing it...

Who knows, maybe the Republicans will grow a pair and actually throw the Globalists out, reclaiming their honor in order to oppose the Democrats.

I challenge you FRiend, to:

Listen to the TRUTH.
If you dare.

If you can disagree with what is said, then come and tell me where it is wrong.

143 posted on 04/19/2008 4:02:27 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

Again. Whatever. Go ahead and waste your vote on a 3rd party canidate that couldn’t get elected if God himself ran his campaign.

The Obama camp and the far-left radicals are counting on people like you on election day. A 3rd party vote is a vote for Obama.

I see your “truth” is a link to Alan Keyes. Another guy who will never get elected.


144 posted on 04/19/2008 4:11:59 PM PDT by faithinchaos (eternal pessimist, recovering optimist)
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To: faithinchaos
waste your vote on a 3rd party canidate that couldn’t get elected if God himself ran his campaign.

Oh, I don't know... Perot got 20%... Just think what a Reagan Republican (like Keyes) could do. The Christians alone can do much better than that.

I see you merely looked at the link rather than accepting my challenge...

145 posted on 04/19/2008 4:49:07 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
Oh, I don't know... Perot got 20%... Just think what a Reagan Republican (like Keyes) could do. The Christians alone can do much better than that.

Well we know what Obama can do to Keyes.. the same thing he did when Keyes ran against Obama for the Senate in Illinois..

The Illinois United States Senate election of 2004 was held on November 2, 2004. Democratic candidate Barack Obama defeated Republican candidate Alan Keyes by 70% to 27%. The 43% margin was the largest in Illinois history in a U.S. Senate election.

OBAMA BEAT THE EXCREMENT OUT OF KEYES!!!!!

That's excrement spelled with a capital "S"


146 posted on 04/19/2008 4:55:56 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Obadiah
Simply stated, American patriots have resolved in their own minds that they will take a McCain shiv in the back because they love this country more than they hate McCain and are willing to personally sacrifice as much

That's pretty much where I'm at as well. I'm not happy or excited about it, but the very idea of Hitlery or (especially)Hussein in the WH scares me to death.

147 posted on 04/19/2008 4:59:11 PM PDT by Marathoner (Small town bitter hayseed, and proud of it)
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To: Common Tator
Well we know what Obama can do to Keyes.. the same thing he did when Keyes ran against Obama for the Senate in Illinois..

Oh yeah... Last minute entry from out-of-state into a race where the Republicans, and their candidate are debased and defamed... A rock-ribbed Conservative beat by a whacked out liberal in bright blue Illinois. Who'da thunk it?

Yeah. It's the same thing. /not

148 posted on 04/19/2008 5:08:30 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

Regardless of whether I agree with Keyes or not I would still never waste a vote on a 3rd party canidate and help elect a socialist/closet racist like Obama.

I don’t care about your challenge. A 3rd party vote is a vote for Obama. That is a fact.


149 posted on 04/19/2008 8:14:20 PM PDT by faithinchaos (eternal pessimist, recovering optimist)
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To: faithinchaos
waste a vote on a 3rd party canidate and help elect a socialist/closet racist like Obama.

A wasted vote would be one voting for a dishonorable, unprincipled, socialist Republican, assuming that he is the cure for your 'socialist/closet racist' named Obama.

150 posted on 04/19/2008 9:35:44 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

LOL. A socialist Republican. That’s rich.

You might as well stay home election day because in reality (your reality) you’ll bascially be voting for a socialist either way.

Vote McCain= Socialist (according to you)
Vote for 3rd party= Socialist (Obama)


151 posted on 04/20/2008 6:06:26 AM PDT by faithinchaos (eternal pessimist, recovering optimist)
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To: 50sDad; AuntB

auntie, read post #56 and see how 50’sDad feels about his protest vote against Bush Sr.


152 posted on 04/20/2008 10:23:04 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: roamer_1
OK then what about Keyes performance in the 2000 primary race.

He got in early and stayed late and won nothing but the contempt of most Republican voters.

In fact George W. Bush banned Keyes from the Republican convention in 2000 and few even noticed. Keyes tried calling a press conference from his hotel at the convention to complain but it got next to no coverage. George W. could ban Keyes because Keyes did not win a single delegate to the 2000 convention.

In 1988, Keyes was the Maryland Republican Party candidate for the Senate, and received 38 percent of the vote against incumbent Democrat Paul Sarbanes. Four years later, Keyes ran again for the Senate from Maryland against Democrat Barbara Mikulski, he received 29 percent in the general election. Notice how is is. As the voters get to know Keyes better, the fewer votes he gets.

Keyes ran for the senate in Illinois and got 27 percent fo the vote. In three senate races Keyes got 38 percent, 29 percent, 27 percent.. Notice a trend there? Didn't think so!!!!

What a loser!!!!

Keyes has run for the Senate 3 times and lost 3 times!!

Keyes was also a failure in talk radio. He had a syndicated Radio show that did not draw an audience.

In the radio industry the word was Keyes Talk Show had 3 listeners, but two of them were deaf and the other didn't speak English.

153 posted on 04/20/2008 3:40:32 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
OK then what about Keyes performance in the 2000 primary race. He got in early and stayed late and won nothing but the contempt of most Republican voters.

On the contrary, Keyes WON all the debates he participated in, hands down, even by MSM admission. His performance was excellent.

What took Keyes out was the same thing that took Conservatives out this year- No funding early on, and the RNC's anointed Bakerites mysteriously wind up in the "top tier", while conservatives are resigned to the "bottom tier" based upon what the media considers popularity, while the vast majority of conservative states don't get a whack at the primary at all.

In fact George W. Bush banned Keyes from the Republican convention in 2000 and few even noticed. Keyes tried calling a press conference from his hotel at the convention to complain but it got next to no coverage.

Keyes always gets next to no coverage, as is the case with all Reagan Conservatives, so I don't find that surprising in the least. It will be interesting to see how he does in a party that actually supports him, as even though the CP is small potatoes in comparison to the GOP, anything he receives from them is more than he has ever received from the Republicans.

Keyes ran for the senate in Illinois and got 27 percent fo the vote. In three senate races Keyes got 38 percent, 29 percent, 27 percent.. Notice a trend there?

What nonsense. The two Maryland campaigns can be thus judged together, but to use the Illinois campaign with them is an evident and obvious error. Two in Maryland and one in Illinois cannot be compared- Illinois is an entirely different set of voters and issues, not to mention the circumstances involved. It is preposterous to assume such a thing.

Even if one was to include them all as a legitimate set of data, 29 and 27 are close enough together to be statistically insignificant, thus blowing a hole in the hull of your supposed 'trend'.

As to his results in Maryland, that, again, is unsurprising. Maryland is a blue state, almost as bad as Illinois... A Conservative can't win a liberal leaning state. What a shocker.

Unlike McCain, Keyes plays well where a Republican (ergo, Conservative) must play well- That being the South, the Midwest (Bible belt), the Rocky Mountain West, and the Desert Southwest. That is Reagan country, Republican country, and most certainly, and importantly, Conservative and Christian country, which is why McCain barely made a dent there. It is also why McCain and the RNC are broke on their butts.

The only real detriments attributable to Keyes have nothing to do with his record and positions (which are without flaw). They are his color, and his location. A black Yankee seems an unlikely candidate for success in the South and West, but Keyes' zealous support of patriotic and Christian issues will offset that detriment to a great degree. So much so, that it may be insignificant this year, especially when considering the great opposition to the RINOs and to McCain that certainly exists at this time.

Given a choice between 'more of the same' Globalism in a Bakerite RINO McCain, Social liberalism (more 'more of the same') from either of the Democrat candidates, or a passionate and consistent Reagan Conservative in the form of Dr. Alan Keyes, I think that most Americans will make the self-evident choice their own.

What else is of little surprise is the general tenor of your posts. As seems to always be the case, the opponents of Conservatives, when they can make no hay with the candidates record and positions (which is the case with you), they rely upon talking smack and fall back upon the same old song: 'electability'.

Whenever Conservatives sacrifice principle for 'electability', they lose, and lose big. The current case is no different, so it stands to reason that your arguments will fall on deaf ears. You may wrap yourself in the flag, beat your chest, rend your robes, point to your wookies, threaten with boogymen, and spread your broken glass by the dump truck full- It will all be for naught. If there is a Conservative on the field, that is who the Conservatives will vote for. That is as predictable as the sun rising in the east.

The mistake, and thereby the fault, lies with the Republican leadership, in providing a condition where that Conservatism must rise up in another party. When the Republicans lose, and they will in any event, that is where the blame will lie, in truth.

154 posted on 04/20/2008 9:40:12 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
Keyes has my vote. Thanks!
155 posted on 04/21/2008 9:03:55 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: 50sDad

Live and learn, many of us did.


156 posted on 04/21/2008 12:34:27 PM PDT by 1035rep
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