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Barack Obama, Man of Faith [from his Senate campaign]
MensNewsDaily ^ | August 22, 2004 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 04/16/2008 12:36:35 PM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 04/16/2008 12:36:35 PM PDT by SJackson
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“Many ways to get to the same place”. Marxism?


2 posted on 04/16/2008 12:38:12 PM PDT by weegee (Religion is the opiate of the masses MARX1843 They get bitter, they cling to...religion OBAMA2008)
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To: SJackson

So is it okay to ‘cling to your religion’ or isn’t it? I’m so confused!


3 posted on 04/16/2008 12:43:28 PM PDT by Spok (Ignorance is no excuse-it's the real thing.)
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To: SJackson

“I also believe in killing babies in their mothers’ wombs...I think lots and lots of government is great!...and I’ll bet I can get to Heaven without going through Christ.”

-Barry Obama, World Class Christian


4 posted on 04/16/2008 12:43:37 PM PDT by RexBeach
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To: SJackson

“I am a Christian.… So, I have a deep faith. I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. “

Would he consider himself, “clinging” to religion, then? He prays to Jesus everyday, attends church whenever he can, afterall!


5 posted on 04/16/2008 12:44:17 PM PDT by sappy
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“I am a Christian.… So, I have a deep faith. I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”

Many paths? Apparently his brand of Christianity and Bible are lacking John 14:6 (NIV)

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”


6 posted on 04/16/2008 12:46:27 PM PDT by Joann37
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I believe that there are many paths to the same place

- "many paths"?? That's not what I learned about Christianity, Barry.

7 posted on 04/16/2008 12:49:07 PM PDT by babyfreep (If you see a snake poised to strike, you do not wait until he has struck before you crush him.)
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To: weegee
“Many ways to get to the same place”. Marxism?

Hope and Change

8 posted on 04/16/2008 12:50:04 PM PDT by SJackson (Inner city folk--bitter, cling to Sat Nite Specials, Gospel, rap--hate folk not like them)
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To: RexBeach

You are too kind. Barry also believes in killing babies outside the mother’s womb, and has voted for such.


9 posted on 04/16/2008 12:55:07 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: SJackson

Since he is rooted in Rev. Wright’s church, he really isn’t rooted in a Christian tradition at all. He is rooted in a “blacks are the victims, oppressed by whitey,” Anti-American, racist tradition.


10 posted on 04/16/2008 1:00:16 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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Well, I don't think they read the Scriptures at his old church for the last 20 years. So how was he supposed to know Jesus is the Way, The Truth, and The Life? He surely hasn't heard of the way to the Father is through Me, or the narrow gate, etc.

I only wish a journalist was familiar enough with Scripture to ask him where the verse is that says you don't have to have Jesus for salvation. He said he found homosexuality was OK with God in the Sermon on the Mount. I looked but couldn't find it. It must be in the Afro-centric Bible. The King James doesn't have it.

11 posted on 04/16/2008 1:00:52 PM PDT by chuckles
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“I am a Christian...I believe that there are many paths to the same place”

These statements are mutually exclusive. You absolutely cannot be a Christian and believe there are “many paths.” There is one path, and Jesus himself said so.

One does not have to judge Obama to confidently say that he is not a Christian. He does not know Christ. His own statement tells us so.

I pray that one day he will be saved, and that, in the meantime, he will not continue to be such a deceiver.


12 posted on 04/16/2008 1:01:54 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: chuckles
He said he found homosexuality was OK with God in the Sermon on the Mount.

Note the article above.

The only recognizably Christian position Obama takes is his opposition to same-sex marriage, due to the “religious connotations” of marriage...This is surely due to the fact that blacks are the racial/ethnic group most adamantly opposed to same-sex marriage, and Obama does not want to rile the one voter bloc on which his candidacy is most dependent.

Of course that was four years ago. He walks the path of political opportunism.

13 posted on 04/16/2008 1:07:37 PM PDT by SJackson (Inner city folk--bitter, cling to Sat Nite Specials, Gospel, rap--hate folk not like them)
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To: Joann37

Well his pastor may be a former muslim...


14 posted on 04/16/2008 1:13:34 PM PDT by weegee (Religion is the opiate of the masses MARX1843 They get bitter, they cling to...religion OBAMA2008)
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To: Tex Pete; babyfreep; Joann37
I hope I'm not parsing his words too much, but if you read the quote

"I am a Christian.… So, I have a deep faith. I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.

it's not clear that he's referring to a Christian path througy Jesus, rather multiple "paths" to the same destination, presumably salvation though I believe elsewhere he's equated heaven with kissing his daughters good night. That would be consistant with a multicultural viewpoint.

15 posted on 04/16/2008 1:18:31 PM PDT by SJackson (Inner city folk--bitter, cling to Sat Nite Specials, Gospel, rap--hate folk not like them)
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isn’t this magazine owned by Jan Wenner (the tool who owns Rolling Stone and put Gore on the cover with an enhanced ‘package’?)


16 posted on 04/16/2008 1:20:36 PM PDT by bpjam (Drill For Oil or Lose Your Job!! Vote Nov 3, 2008)
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Photobucket Don't be bitter, Obama!
17 posted on 04/16/2008 1:23:33 PM PDT by xuberalles ("Barack Obama: Change Is A Dime Bag!" http://www.cafepress.com/titillatingtees.225246874)
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To: Tex Pete

There are many paths even within Christianity. Roman Catholicism has a different interpretation than Greek Orthodox than Lutheranism than Southern Baptist than Methodist than Presbyterian than Ecumenical than Restorationist than etc. etc. etc.

There are so many facets and fragments and sub-fragments, so many interpretations, so many different perceptions of the “Truth,” that there end up being many, many different paths taken. And each and every individual takes his or her own unique path to spirituality, too. No one individual’s interpretation is exactly like another’s.

Sure, all of these center on Jesus Christ. But the interpretations of Scripture can be very different. Even within the church that I grew up with, Lutheran, there is the Missouri Synod, the ECLU, and the LWF churches which are at odds with the CLC churches. The LWF and CLC consider each others’ practices to be “fake Christianity.”

So, many paths. Many mansions.

I am not saying all of this in support of Obama in any way, but just as a factual statement.

Hmm, while I’m rambling on here, let me ask an off-the-wall question: How many of you believe that there is life (with souls) on other planets in the Universe?


18 posted on 04/16/2008 1:23:39 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: bpjam

Don’t know. The article was actually a response to a puff piece in the Sun-Times of the same title. I doubt it was published there first.


19 posted on 04/16/2008 1:32:11 PM PDT by SJackson (Inner city folk--bitter, cling to Sat Nite Specials, Gospel, rap--hate folk not like them)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

“There are many paths even within Christianity. Roman Catholicism has a different interpretation than Greek Orthodox than Lutheranism than Southern Baptist than Methodist than Presbyterian than Ecumenical than Restorationist than etc. etc. etc.”

Except Jesus’ words are not vague.

“13 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.”

Lots and lots of people, including Obama, are on the road to the wide gate.


20 posted on 04/16/2008 2:03:26 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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