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"Bush's North Korea Capitulation" (Dynamite BOLTON Op/Ed!)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 15 April 2008 | Ambassador John R. Bolton

Posted on 04/16/2008 7:23:17 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

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To: quant5
We would never have allowed this same thing bordering on outright appeasement-for-legacy's-sake to happen under a DEMOCRAT President. Whether it were Gore elected in 2000 or Kerry elected in 2004.

As it stands, since the President selling us out is GOP, we even have threads commenting on how lovely he looks in this pressed shirt and that pressed shirt, or soliciting our prayers as he continues to fiddle while Rome burns, both domestically with our borders and internationally with our enemies we SWORE seven years ago would be toast if they dared get a nuke or proliferated it for that matter. Unfrikkinbelievable.

61 posted on 04/17/2008 1:50:18 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: quant5
Appeasement has failed since Madeline Albright first brought Kim a basketball. North Korea was caught proliferating nuclear material to the Middle East.

Indeed, as pointed out devastatingly in David Zucker's piece,

But appeasement has had a far longer history of unmitigated failure than that...we must never, never forget, or allow the liberals, and liberals masquerading as "conservatives" or "pragmatists" to fudge the truth of the parallels and invent distinctions without a real difference:


62 posted on 04/17/2008 11:02:43 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

To me the President got overwhelmed in Iraq and national security. When you ignore domestic affairs while passing off critical foreign policy matters to boneheads, the result is less resources to address domestic and critical foreign policy matters. We had to spend many billions to prevent more large scale terrorist attacks and perhaps at the end of the day this was the right approach.

However, I would prefer it if the President took accountability and simply said that the negotiations with North Korea failed then attempt to dress it up and spin it. The President’s legacy is a mixed-back of extreme success and extreme failures.


63 posted on 04/17/2008 1:27:00 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Paul Ross

How true. Liberals attempt to impose there will on how they want the world to be rather then accepting reality of how the world really is. Hence, ALWAYS fail to create policy around reality. For Republicans these last few years, do your damn market research and understand the cultures we are attempting to work with or subdue. Pride is the downfall of men and creates arrogant ignorance and forces learning the hard and painful way.


64 posted on 04/17/2008 1:30:55 PM PDT by quant5
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To: quant5
They are in the spin mode. A lot of this is careerism. When you write your own report card, you are NOT going to give yourself a D or an F. In fact, you have your mortgage to pay for over the Potomac in Virginia, or junior's third year at Princeton, or whatever else keeps these career State bureaucrats and "negotiators" up all night.

What we really need is a new Conflict of Interest Law. Once the ink dries on a negotiated instrument, particularly with an untrustworthy negotiating partner such as North Korea, the diplomats who negotiated it should be backed out at once, and an independent, hardline audit committee should come in and make sure it sticks, so they are not skewered to spin and make it sound like it worked, because to admit failure is to admit they negotiating a shit deal.

This is the problem with Chris Hill still overseeing this effort.

He is totally corrupted now and has lost all objectivity, and the North Koreans know it and are rolling him in the alleyway right and left. Stupid Americans!, they must be thinking.

65 posted on 04/17/2008 5:32:59 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

ping to my commments


66 posted on 04/17/2008 5:33:55 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"If he does, and if this deal proceeds, we can well and truly say: "President Bush, you are no Ronald Reagan."

We can say it right now. No need to wait.

67 posted on 04/17/2008 5:49:21 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Yes, he has a bad case of clientism.
68 posted on 04/17/2008 8:29:10 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Now Condi is stepping in today and defending Chris Hill and in light of the explosive John Bolton comments which were read far and wide. I think it is into damage control mode now. State sucks!


69 posted on 04/17/2008 9:31:22 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I am running for Congress in 2012. You should run for office also. Your idea is dead on and has of course come up before, but it takes many good Patriots to pass laws that impose critiques and restructuring of policy.


70 posted on 04/18/2008 8:09:29 AM PDT by quant5
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