Posted on 04/15/2008 8:34:19 PM PDT by blam
So maybe it’s not.
Pretty sick if not.
Should me the post # where I said any of that. You can't. You just made up pure fiction.
Like Jean Cauvin himself...
Looks like God's will to me
Of course it does. But once again, you take one verse and twist it to support a bogus theology, ignoring the hundreds of verses where Jesus healed people, ignoring that Jesus said part of His mission was to heal the sick. So why on earth would God's perfect will be for some of those to be sick? Jesus said it best:
And knowing their thoughts he said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: Mat 12:25
It is kooky to think that God made this man sick so Jesus could heal Him, like some cheap stage show magician, setting up a phony in the crowd.
could you please inform me of just what this "bogus theology" is?
More irrational, faulty logical thinking. "If AU defends a specific point made by poster X, then that means they support all of poster X's points." You guys need to go to thinking school. It would really help!
So according to Jesus, why are some people born with defects?
So once again, you don't seem to "read with precision" and then get into trouble. The only thing Jesus said for certain was that it WAS NOT because of the sins of the parents. Jesus DID say it so God's glory could be manifest. More faulty logical thinking would make the flawed conclusion that this was God's perfect will, rather than something that God allowed. There is a difference.
okay, God does things against His will, that’s a new one on me
With God, of course there is.
But not with that cruel caricature of a god devised by Cauvin in his own egotistical image.
Huh?! I have no idea what point you are trying you make...
Oh my.
and so herein we have the crux of the issue. I have to go wash my dog or something, see you
And just where was that said?
Why are they BORN that way?
First, there are defects, and there are defects, and some would argue that we are enhanced by our limitations.
In my opinion, we are here to do the will of God. If we are born with ‘defects’, then God has his reason. My son is a type 1 diabetic. The other has lethal allergies to food. We thought he was autistic, but turns out he was just ADD, and is doing much better.
I don’t know God’s plan. I ask Him to give me the courage to carry out my role in that plan, even if I’m not fit to understand it. My children will fulfill God’s will - they may be fulfilling it as we speak.
Jesus might tell you that the hand can’t be a foot, and the eye can’t be an ear, but we are each fearfully and wonderfully made. He knows each of us from before we were born. I can’t speak for him, however. He speaks for Himself. We are born with putative ‘strengths’ and ‘weaknesses’. How often has one’s strengths so consumed us that God does not come into the picture?
There’s a milloin stories of maimed children reaching powerful people. Curt Marsh, standout lineman for the Raiders in their glory years (has two super bowl rings), had so badly injured his leg that it had to be amputated.
Wallowing in pity in his room, a lifetime standout athlete now without his leg, he had heard some sort of wheezing sound coming from the hall. He wheels himself out to the nurses station to find a boy, burns over 40 percent of his body, speaking to his dad on the phone, not able to speak, but laughing at his dad’s jokes.
In that moment, Curt snapped out of it and realize that if this boy, maimed as he was, could find it in himself to laugh, then Curt could make something of his life without his leg. I can’t tell you how many people Curt Marsh has brought to God since then. He can snap your neck like a twig, but he’s the most gentle person you’ll ever have the pleasure of meeting.
Did the boy complete his mission? Was he aware of the plan? Did he have to be?
I believe that boy was an instrument of God, and through him many people have come to find Jesus.
I pray that I’ve carried mine out, that I didn’t botch it somehow.
1000S: Looks like God's will to me
AU: It is kooky to think that God made this man sick so Jesus could heal Him, like some cheap stage show magician, setting up a phony in the crowd.
It may seem "kooky" to you, but you've been given the clear words of Scripture and you ridicule them.
Your argument isn't with us. It's with God.
None of us gets out of life unscathed.
But we are strengthened knowing the truth of Romans 8:28...
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."
The alternative is for us to think we go through life either as victims of chance and happenstance, or objects of an indifferent and impotent god. That way of living doesn't display a strong trust in God.
I think from your posts you display an unhealthy preoccupation with demonic possession.
Amen. Well-put.
Did God "declare the end from the beginning?" Do you understand what that means? What do you think that means?
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