Posted on 04/14/2008 8:17:56 PM PDT by BlackVeil
(Yeah, isn't it nice to know we live in a "free republic"...sounds like the "iron curtain"...and Utah has long had a reputation of being a spiritual iron curtain)
Are there large islamic groups living in seclusion in Texas?
If they whisked her out of there, they have just invited the Feds to join the party, especially if they moved her out of Texas.
Dizzy is a good word to describe it. I’ve been searching on the net for information re: the phone calls. Here’s an article in the Houston Chronicle:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5701506.html
It explains why it was necessary to separate some mothers from their children, if indeed they were their children. Six women took them up on their offer of “safe haven.”
In the article there is a quote from ‘Brenda:’
“It’s been all through history, “ said Brenda, the mother of two. “We were just here trying to live a peaceful, happy, sweet life. We don’t understand why we can’t do this freely.”
Apparently six women didn’t think it was such a ‘sweet life.’
As for ‘Brenda’ excuse me while I go bang my head. She can’t understand why they can’t abuse children freely?
Wintertime, wake up. This isn't setting precedent, it's FOLLOWING precedent. This sort of thing happens all the time in regular child abuse cases. I've seen it myself here in NY.
CPS can go into a school, interview your child and they don't come home that afternoon.
The only difference between this case and others is the magnitude of children involved.
BTW, this sort of behavior by CPS is not unknown amongst homeschool circles. In many cases, homeschooling is enough justification to yank someone's kids. You know that.
Then it appears that you are fornicating with ignorance.
I think they are all mentally “challenged”. (I’m trying to be nice here!)
Have you heard that the kids don’t know who their REAL mothers are? They call numerous women “mother” so they couldn’t give them back to them anyway until they know who belongs to who.
I’ll bet they watched the kids interact with the “moms” and realized there was no way they were ever going to get the truth of identity, etc.
What a mess!
Hopefully, the six who chose ‘safe haven’ can shed some light on who belongs to who.
Yes, I do know that.
What are the chances that this kids will be sexually and physically abused while in foster care? From what I have read, there is a very high likelihood.
God bless those 6 women. I’d be willing to send money to help them get on their feet far far away.
I agree. Friends of mine who were foster parents themselves said that any kid who has been in foster care for more than two years is guaranteed to have been sexually abused at some point during that time.
When that happens, those responsible should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
It’s also a very high likelihood that these kids in this situation will be physically and sexually abused if they are sent back to the FLDS compound. Pregnant underage girls are proof of that.
As opposed to the near 100% chance that any girl child will be sexually abused by her ‘spiritual’ husband then put on welfare fraudulently?
As opposed to the greater than 50% chance that any boy child will be abandoned and ‘excommunicated’ because there are not enough women to go around; and dumped out on the street with no skills or education?
Get a grip.
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Only the Muslim half of large communities in Irving and Dallas. There is a HUGE mosque off 161, and women swaddled in hijab even when it is 105 degrees.
The fact that the guy who honor killed his two daughters at DFW airport a few weeks ago hasn’t been found should also be a matter of concern.
Difference is, the polygamists were politically correct targets. Take on a Wahabi lobby, and then you’ll get sued.
It’s sad that there is such a double standard.
It’s a toss up trying to decide who’s worse; the Muslims or the FLDS?
I believe that the word "sweet" is the word that the cult uses to define the permanent demeanor that the women are to wear at all times and when they are being warned or admonished they are instructed to 'be sweet' or 'live sweet'.
“The fact that the guy who honor killed his two daughters at DFW airport a few weeks ago hasnt been found should also be a matter of concern.
Difference is, the polygamists were politically correct targets.”
The difference is that this isn’t an individual, this is a 10,000 member cult in four states and two nations, that has a financial empire, and it’s religion is sex with young underage girls in the form of performing marriage ceremonies between them at age 12 to age 16, with men of ages up to 50 and 60 and older.
These sex practices aren’t practiced on girls found hitch hiking and such, the religion literally consists of breeding compounds where hundreds of women married to a handful of men produce the youthful off spring that the older men assign to each other.
This is the practice of the religion itself, this story is not about a bad priest, or a bad element of a few guys at one of the compounds that went renegade, this isn’t about a new leader that led some of them astray from the basic tenants of their religion before he showed up.
This is the religion of the group, and we have been trying to stop them for generations, it is a tough thing to do because of all the legal complications of gathering hard evidence with such a closed cult and the fact that as Mormons living under Mormon law enforcement they were winked at.
Busting a man or 50 men is not the end, because this is not a simple cult that got out of balance temporarily, the child rape coupled with the rest of the polygamy that is also illegal but involves the girls and women over 17 is the core of the religion, either the cult ends, or the rape continues.
The phrase is “Keep Sweet.” Apparently it is something of a mantra repeated to young girls to remind them of their place.
“Keep Sweet” thanks
That was a reference to his daughter Amy that he quoted on foreign policy once back in about 1979, she is 41 years old now, she was born in 1967.
He is still married to his one and only 80 year old wife.
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