Posted on 04/14/2008 4:30:19 AM PDT by Renfield
I appreciate your comment Frankiep, it goes a long way to swing our opinions around. During my time in the US, I did speak with the average American, and they were generally positive about Europe. Indeed, all that had gone or were planning to go, relished the opportunity to experience cultures that are similar, yet totally alien to that in the US. Same reason I went Stateside too.
Cheers pal.
“Not to take away from my sentiments in my last post, but what you say here is absolutely ridiculous.”
????? Which bit?
“A democratic Republic does not stagnate.”
? Surely you wish to alter that statement, even very slightly? You dont have to be the most educated the easily point out a certain exception to that rule, the exception that you Yanks have used as template for yourselves. Go on, hazard a guess....
“Perhaps in your socialist education and indoctrination”
Eat me boyo. I could well say the same about your schooling, if not more so, cos I have been taught in 7 different countries across Europe, Africa and North America. I would suggest I am better placed for this argument.
bye bye...
“Eat me boyo”?
Well, that was a brilliant comback for someone of your vast, 7 different country education process.
Have a nice day.....boyo
I thought so. Worked long and hard at that comeback, and I’m pretty proud of it.
I always chuckle at those who speak condescendingly of other posters, yet don't take the time to review their statements.
Perhaps you meant "conversation", friend? Or am I too "dumbed down" to catch the gist of your drift?
The part where you stated that the US isn’t grown up enough to make the right moves.
Nonsense.
Been there. Seen it. Wouldn't spend a dime to go back.
Enjoy your dhimmitude.
conservation...
condensation...
convention...
conversation..
got it. cheers.
really?
The Alpiglen?
Gibraltar?
Julian Alps?
Prague?
These are very nice places mate. I suggest you visit if given the chance.
fair enough. just an opinion.
Prosit! Appreciate your good cheer!
“who survive are usually (we do not speak about individual cases) more intelligent and more able compared to their fallen comrades (I know that this is not PC - but it is the plain truth).”
Certainly not in regards to WWII. The Germans soldiers that survived were the ones that were lucky enough to be captured by the west. Mabye a handful of Germans were returned by Russia, the rest killed on the spot or died in Soveit gulags. By 1945, Hitler was relying on the Volkssturm, a rag-tag bunch of poorly trained and poorly equipted old people and children.
“BTW - the contemporary system in Russia might be not exactly “free”, but it is far better than anything that happened there in the past.”
Considering that past governments killed millions of their own, that’s not exactly something to brag about.
“Russia abolished capital punishment since it is not accepted within Europe and Europeans anymore.”
Putin: “Nobody told me those plutonium cocktails were lethal.” ;-)
“The Americans are trying to find ‘friends’ that are loyal to a fault, and can be made to do their bidding in the allies region.”
Please elaborate. What bidding? You mean enforcing security council resolutions?
” Think Britain in Europe, Ukraine and other Eastern Bloc countries further East. They use Taiwan in a similar way, to bait the Chinese, and the South Koreans too.”
What do you mean by ‘bait the Chinese’? Baiting them to do what?
“They will have plenty of yes-men, running their own pseudo-democratic regimes while American turns a blind eye to the crimes they commit in the local arena. “
Crimes commited by who? What nations are you referring to?
“Your troops in Germany are not suitable to “keep Germany down” “
Sure they are, as we have proven in the past. We contained all of Germany with a relatively small force shortly after WWII. We could kill them wholesale. When we met resistance, we’d line up military aged males from a village and shoot them. We were also able to execute their leaders in a not-so-humane fashion. We would make the ropes the wrong length and they would die slowly. I believe that actions like this induced enough fear that they knew going against the allies was a bad idea.
“I am confident in Europes ability to drive a new path for the world. Not in a military perspective, which is where our social and political societies differ from your militaristic one, but by leading by example.”
Explain how this strategy will make Iran comply with their obligations to the council and the NPT. How will ‘leading by example’ bring Iran in complaince with IAEA’s safeguard agreement?
“You are xenophobic, not by design, but over the time being isolated, in a geographical sense, from the world. “
Question 1: How many nations host U.S. troops?
Question 2: Which nation or nations have more overseas deployments than the United States?
After all, today's Europeans are descended from peasants who didn't have the backbone to pack up and head to America when they had the chance.
Their grandchildren and great-grandchildren inherited their temerity.
” Fighting against terrorism in a reasonable ratio i.e. is something that is understood within the European majorities while preemptive strikes because of some WMDs that can not be not found later are not. “
Our action was not preemptive. It was due to non-complaince of the armistice agreement. If you read the terms of the agreement, it was Saddam’s obligation to verifiably destroy any WMDs. As the council noted in UNSC 1441, Saddam had failed to do so. He also would not comply with the other requirements. For example, as the council noted, he was found in non-complaince in regards to terrorism as well. In a post-9/11 world, this was found to be unacceptable by both congress and the White House. And thus, military action was authorized ‘to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime’. If we had authorized the action in anticipation that Saddam ‘may’ violate the agreement, then it would have been preemptive.
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