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8-year-old girl asks for divorce in court
Yemen Times ^ | 4/9/08 | Hamed Thabet

Posted on 04/11/2008 10:07:28 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: Tamar1973

Yes, that’s what we are told. This child’s experience is unique. I have said a silent prayer for the rest who are bewildered and alone without recourse. They don’t even know God is there to protect them. They were never taught of his love. It’s just the way things are. Gray and bleak, grateful for any respite, much less kindness. It is then that I realize how silly we are, how lucky most of us have been (though it seems there were fewer like me than I ever thought possible). How blessed I was in parents, in birth place, in opportunities, in medical advances. I have truly been (even with all the bad times) the luckiest of women.


41 posted on 04/11/2008 11:12:15 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Secret Agent Man
Tabari VII:7 "The Prophet married Aisha in Mecca three years before the Hijrah,[the Hijrah is when Mohammad was kicked out of Mecca so he moved to Medina, where his evil really began to chine through] after the death of Khadija. At the time she was six."

Ishaq:281 "When the Apostle came to Medina he was fifty-three." [ This means he was 50 when he married her, taking Tabariv11:7 into account]

Tabari IX:128 "When the Prophet married Aisha she very young and not yet ready for consummation." [6 year old babies still nursing never are]

Bukhari:V9B87N139-40 "Allah's Apostle told Aisha, 'You were shown to me twice in my dreams [a.k.a. a pedophiles sexual fantasies]. I beheld a man or angel {how about Satan?] carrying you in a silken cloth. He said to me, "She is yours, so uncover her." And behold, it was you. I would then say to myself, "If this is from Allah [Satan], then it must happen."'"

The clincher:

Tabari IX:131 "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My[wet] nurse wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. [A nine year old wouldn't be out of breath from being lead by a woman nursing her] I was then brought in while the Messenger was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. Then the men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine six years old."

The lying pen of the Scribe is obvious. Her parents house was always in Mecca. Her parents never moved to medina with them 3 years later.

42 posted on 04/11/2008 11:15:43 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: LibWhacker

We must have open dialog and seek to understand these people. Their culture and religion is just as good as any western culture and religion we have. I am about to gag here.


43 posted on 04/11/2008 11:20:09 AM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: LibWhacker
I remember a news article I read back in February 1996. The article was printed in a major religious magazine, either Christianity Today or Christian Century. It concerned the "marriage" of an 8 year old Indian moslem girl to an elderly man. The girl was frightened and confused, and ran away to try to get back to her mother. Her "parents" sent her back, and the "husband" beat her severely. Finally he became so angry that he took an axe and chopped off both her legs at the knee.

She died a few days later. I cannot recall if she ever received any medical treatment after that atrocity.

To their credit , the fellow villagers of the thing were outraged, and they went in a body to see the village imam. He stated that the husband could not be prosecuted because his actions were within islamic marriage guidelines.

I do not know if a higher authority intervened.

I read this one morning in the Omaha Public library, main branch. It upset me so much I had to go to the restroom and lock myself in a stall till I regained composure-and after all these years, my eyes are stinging and my throat swelling, thinking about that child.

At least this story isn't *quite* so grim.:-(

44 posted on 04/11/2008 11:20:13 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: vpintheak

Some people say that with all seriousness. Not some, a lot, including our brainless politicians.


45 posted on 04/11/2008 11:23:25 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: LibWhacker

RELIGION OF PEACE at it again.


46 posted on 04/11/2008 11:26:59 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Verloona Ti

I served during the Muslim uprizing in east Timor, 1980.
Recalling some of the horrible things these animals did to young Christian girls, and even older woman as they were forced to convert to Islam still gives me nightmares.Men accused of being priest were decapitated and hung by their feet in the streets. That’s where I first bean to learn what Islam really was. Before that I thought it was just some silly religion like Buddhism.


47 posted on 04/11/2008 11:28:45 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: LibWhacker

This is what the little girls were feeling when the pedophile Mohammed the Prophet raped them back in the 7th century.


48 posted on 04/11/2008 11:42:17 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: LibWhacker

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the infence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.

It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50, London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).


49 posted on 04/11/2008 11:47:49 AM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: LibWhacker

Next she’ll be the victim of an honor killing.


50 posted on 04/11/2008 11:52:50 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: LibWhacker

Savage. Sick pig, nothing more.


51 posted on 04/11/2008 11:54:11 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Responsibility2nd
“23 percent of Yemeni women have undergone FGM procedures. In sparsely-populated Red Sea and Aden coastal regions, the figure rises to 69 percent, compared with 15 percent in the heavily-populated highlands and five percent in plateau and desert regions.”

http://www.yementimes.com/article.shtml?i=954&p=health&a=1

52 posted on 04/11/2008 11:54:14 AM PDT by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal." Napoleon Dynamite)
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To: Verloona Ti

I ask myself, What can we do to help these little girls? To help the women trapped in “islam?”

Then, I go out here in the U.S.A, and I see women in OUR streets dressed in full muslim cover-up. I see young girls wearing the hijab, the head scarf. This has always startled me. Why choose to be chattel, and have your daughters be chattel, when this is the free-est nation on earth for women?

It is one thing to see another country in the dark ages, but to see it brought here and existing as a parallel culture is very disturbing.


53 posted on 04/11/2008 11:54:30 AM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

This little girl’s primary identity is that of victor, not victim. She deserves to be famous for what she did. And I hope her pretty, victorious face is gracing newspapers all over the Arab world, putting ideas into the heads of other young women who don’t have quite as much bravery or initiative.


54 posted on 04/11/2008 11:55:50 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Bobalu

"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world."


55 posted on 04/11/2008 11:58:28 AM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: allmendream
FGM = Female genital mutilation.
56 posted on 04/11/2008 12:12:58 PM PDT by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal." Napoleon Dynamite)
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To: Pyro7480; narses; NYer; Salvation; AdmSmith; Aquinasfan; Siobhan; Maeve; XR7; SJackson; ...
thoroughly repulsed ping

(warning in advance)

57 posted on 04/11/2008 4:57:40 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal

As you know the practice goes on in today’s Iran too, under Islamic government and sharia laws. But, the legal age in IRI is 9, not 8 - not that it makes any difference. Basically, when the girl starts her menstrual cycle, she is seen as ready for marriage and sexual activity. In hot climate countries, many girls start their period as young as 7 years of age. Of course, these idiots do not take into account the emotional or psychological development of a child.

The legal age for marriage used to be 18 under Pahlavi Dynasty in Iran.

You may also know that poor families practice this sort of thing much more often. The reason (logic from their perspective) being that they basically want the girl “financially” taken care of by another family (i.e. husband). This logic also applies to “dowry” which is practiced in many ME and north African countries. The future husband and/or his family must agree to provide the bride’s family with certain amount of money before marriage takes place. The amount of money (dowry) essentially determines the value of the bride. Financial consideration comes first and foremost in ME marriages, but mainly for poorer families; they want to get rid of one more mouth to feed asap. Centuries ago, bedouin Arabs (prior to Islam) buried their female infants alive, because they saw very little use for females.


58 posted on 04/11/2008 6:27:51 PM PDT by odds
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To: Dajjal
P.S. - Take a look at Genocide of Zoroastrians when you get the chance. Some very good & reliable historical information about Arab-Muslims, Iran, Koran, slavery, etc.. including the Pahlavi Dynasty era, with references to history by Tabari, etc.. - it is a PDF file.
59 posted on 04/11/2008 7:20:02 PM PDT by odds
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To: odds

Thanks!


60 posted on 04/11/2008 7:27:52 PM PDT by Dajjal
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