Posted on 04/07/2008 2:31:19 PM PDT by george76
There is absolutely no difference whatsoever between him and the leadership level (repeat: leadership level) of many of Americas mainstream Protestant churches, other than the racial 'black liberation' component. This has been the case for a long, long time now. McCain is identified as a long time Episcopalian. Does anyone need to be reminded of what the Episcopal Church is about these days? Hillary! is a long time United Methodist member. They are one of the main pillars of the National Council of Churches. Check them out if you are unfamiliar with their 'beliefs'.
As far as I'm concerned, anyone who whines about Obamas church and has nothing to say about these others is nothing but a hypocrite.
” why is everybody is suddenly so lathered up about Jeremiah Wright.”
Many reasons . First, we are trying to understand what he stands for or against.
Obama has done very little so far in life to form a basis for a run at the POTUS. He has never run a city ( mayor ), never run a state ( governor ), never run a business, nor met a payroll with his own money...
Second, Obama is very silent on his personal goals if he were to win. He is for change...whatever that is.
Third, important people who put a roof over his head, clothes on his back, fed him, paid for expensive private education...are thrown under his bus because they have the wrong skin color.
People who had no role in Obama’s early life are dragged out as if they did. Why ? Because they have the correct ‘ pc ‘ skin color and they are muslims ?
Jeremiah Wright was his mentor...for twenty years.
One can learn alot from the company that they keep for twenty years : espically when little else is provided.
I believe Dr. Sowell made an excellent point about Obama being a member of a racist and anti-American church for 20 years, more people should be upset.
Dr. Sowell is a great man who writes well.
You will never understand it, because he is never going to tell you. But this is no different than any of the other socialists who control public policy in America.
http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_Obama/ObamaReligion.htm
Excerpt:
Many people doubt that Obama can believe this filth, but Obama admits that the first thing that attracted him to Trinity was the “Black Value System.” A system based on James Cone’s revelation that Jesus is for black people only, “In the New Testament, Jesus is not for all, but for the oppressed, the poor and unwanted of society, and against oppressors ... Either God is for black people in their fight for liberation and against the white oppressors, or he is not.” Add to this his twenty year membership, marriage, and baptism of his daughters and you have a Presidential candidate that is up to his ears in hatred of white people.
America be warned, Obama’s god is very similar to the god of jihad and terror. Obama’s faith and extreme Islam share a common thread: they both see America as an oppressor that god has decided to destroy. As James Cone says, “What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.”
Whenever I see one of Barack Obamas smooth performances, it reminds me of a saying from my old neighborhood in Harlem: An eel is like sandpaper compared to you.
The same people who have gone ballistic when some prominent figure is found to belong to some all-male social club are full of excuses for why Barack Obama remained a member of a racist and anti-American church for 20 years.
There is no question that Barack Obama is a clever and glib fellow. There is also no question that some of the most foolish, dangerous and horrific things done around the world in the past hundred years have been done by clever and glib fellows.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1998283/posts
From this quote, you can take out the words 'Obamas faith' and plug in a great many mainstream denominational beliefs instead. It's just warmed over liberation theology from the 60's and 70's. Socialism with a religeous face. It uses the gospel of Jesus Christ as a convenient prop to promote one world government, redistribution of wealth on a global scale, the end of any meaningful national sovereignty, and the institution of secular humanist values. There is absolutely nothing anomalous about Obamas church or belief system, whatever they may be. This stuff doesn't just come out of a void.
Can any students of history tell me if any other candidate this frighteningly anti-American has ever gotten this close to the presidency?
As to wealth redistribution and government takeover of the private economy, Gene McCarthy and George McGovern maybe. Also Hillary!.
in that regard, you certainly would know more than me...I'm an Aussie. We don't have a 'black church' in which the 'reverend' preaches GOD DAMN AUSTRALIA from the pulpit...so there's no chance of a long term member of 'his' congregation standing for election as Prime Minister.
But I can imagine what would happen to such a candidate, if we did! All the Greeks, Italians, Chinese, Vietnamese, Maltese, Latvians, Lithuanians, Hungarians, Poles, Russians, Germans, Austrains, Ukranians, Serbs, Croats, Iraqi's, Koreans, Tibetans, Indians from the subcontinent, South Africans, English, Scots, Irish, Papuans, Tongans, New Zealanders, Dutch, Swedes, Norwegans...(you get the picture?) WOULD THROW ROCKS AT HIM! WHY? BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL AUSTRALIANS!
But Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and Chicago, and Trinitys guiding principleswhat the church calls the Black Value Systemincluded a Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/04/obamas-pastor-w.html
Wright/Obama finally made it acceptable for people of good will, who love this country and all its people, to call out the real rascists that poison our society: those who teach hate to the next generation under the rubric of "Black Liberation Theology."
1 Timothy 6:3 If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, 4 he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 5 and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
The Apostle Paul certainly forsaw the Jeremiah Wright's of the world.
What I find perplexing is why everyone seems intent on ignoring the destructive church teachings of the other candidates, which amounts to the same thing, just without the flamboyance and bellicosity. These church leaders know how to say "G** D*** America" quietly with Phd language they learned at Harvard Divinity School.
People assume that leftists always develop their worldview in academic surroundings, but I think they also often get it from growing up in the leftist churches. In at least three of the largest mainstream denominational churches, there has been a total and complete leftwing coup in recent years. The schism in the Episcopal church is just the tip of the iceburg. In the world of organized religeon, Jeremiah Wright is mainstream.
http://reformed-theology.org/html/issue07/apostasy.htm
http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Authors.aspx?GUID=D051197A-A2F6-4963-B2D8-0B489748CB29
Obama had nothing to do with the Che flat at the Houston HQ, but don’t let that get in your way.
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