Iraq: Sadr Party Faces Rising Isolation

AP via ABC News ^ | Apr 6, 2008 | HAMZA HENDAWI and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA

[Tennessean4Bush]

This report is not true. There is no political progress in Iraq. So, this cannot be true. Stop posting these lies!

[MNJohnnie]

This is long overdue

Ever heard of the term "Divide and Conquer"? Classic Counter Insurgency tactics. Split up the opposition groups into manageable bites. One of the reasons we failed in Vietnam was we drove all the various Nationalist and religious groups into the arms of the Viet Cong. The reason we are winning in Iraq is we have learned the lessons we should of learned in Vietnam.

Rather then try and fight everyone all at once, we broke the Iraq-Al Qeda groups into manageable bites. Now that the Sunni-Al Qeda groups backs are broken, it Mookies turn to put his head on the block and get wacked.

[MNJohnnie]

Apparently the Iraqi are not fully the idiots some of us have long prescribed to

Too bad most the Dincons here in the USA are fully the idiots on Iraq we have been telling them they all are.

Things have always been working towards this all along. Too bad the usual collection of Dinocons here on FR were so arrogantly certain of their own infallibility they simply refused to listen to any of us who have been telling them how these things would work out in Iraq.

Many here on Freeper been trying to tell the Doom and Gloom crowd the facts on Iraq. They were simply to arrogant to listen!

Too bad some Freepers would rather believe the proven liars in the US Junk News Media when it comes to Iraq then the people here who actually know what they are talking about!

[MNJohnnie]

Obama or Clinton as potential POTUS they must now prove they can govern

Totally and wholly wrong.

What we are seeing in Iraq is the end game the Coalition has been building toward from the start.

Where the Bushies failed was underestimating the time the Iraqis could get their forces up and running. They looked at how fast we could of done it and said "Hey the Iraqis can do this in 2 years.

Ummm no, it took them 4 years. Which really isn't surprising.

A US Trooper goes into a military with over 200 years of corporate history commanded by officers and NCOs with decades of experience supported by the worlds greatest logistics chain.

The Iraqis had to rebuild a society, and a military, degraded by 40 years of murder, torture and terror. What is amazing is not that it took them 4 years to work out most the bugs in their system, but they managed to create the system at all!

[Marine_Uncle]

Agree on your points. To many fail to analyze the Iraqi society, the mix of religious as well as ethnic blends, what happened for so long under the Butcher etc..
They maintain at best a hollywood mentality. Rebuilding a country that so long lived under a brutal regime takes time. And to boot when most of those that had a clue as to how to run government agencies etc., are no longer allowed to participate the job is much more difficult to accomplish.
One thing I just re-iterated to Ernie on another Iraq post, is the need modify their constitution to make all militias illegal then with real zest, pursue the means to take them all out by force, if they do not fully comply.
Iraq cannot be ran by mafias and like groups, if it is to mature slowly into a westernized democratic form.
With the oil market improving in Iraq, the militias will only gain strength from siphoned off oil revenues.
If there is no prospect to receive a salary for participating in a militia, one may be hesitant to join or remain. Especially if jobs are made available elsewise with a higher probability of not getting eventually shot in the head.