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Six Uncomfortable Truths About Race in America
Townhall.com ^ | April 4, 2008 | John Hawkins

Posted on 04/04/2008 12:04:46 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: ZGuy

“It’s not skin color—it’s culture. It would be foolish to accept the culture of any person or a group that embraces demonstrably destructive societal practices. But it is based upon culture, not skin color. That’s why we oppose liberalism, communism, etc.”

Exactly. You are correct.

Well said.

Thank you.


21 posted on 04/04/2008 1:44:27 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: donna

I don’t disagree with anything that Jonah said, I’d just like to add something. The discussion of race in regard to the Jeremiah Wright issue is a red herring. Black Liberation Theology is no more about race than it is about God. It’s nothing but a political philosophy, a Marxist political philosophy. They call it a praxis, the excercise or application of a branch of learning. Obama is trying to color all criticism of his connection to Jeremiah Wright as racist.

That explanation is just not going to work.


22 posted on 04/04/2008 1:44:38 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE - the new euphemism for Marxist revolution)
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To: MindBender26
Uncomfortable truths.

1. At start of Civil War, there were more Freemen in US than slaves.

2. Black Confederate officers commanded both Black and White troops in Civil War.

If they were true, they might be uncomfortable.

Unfortunately those are lies -- and very comfortable ones for some people.

1) In 1860, there were about one half-million free Black people in the US and almost four million slaves.

2) Where's your evidence? Some people count African Americans who did work for the Confederate Army as troops. That may or may not be legitimate. But where are these "Black Confederate officers" commanding Black, let alone White troops?

23 posted on 04/04/2008 1:46:14 PM PDT by x
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To: RightWhale

My apologies to you because I know I came on strong.

I have no excuse.

My best and kindest regards to you.


24 posted on 04/04/2008 1:53:25 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Eva
I don’t disagree with anything that Jonah said, I’d just like to add something. The discussion of race in regard to the Jeremiah Wright issue is a red herring. Black Liberation Theology is no more about race than it is about God. It’s nothing but a political philosophy, a Marxist political philosophy. They call it a praxis, the excercise or application of a branch of learning. Obama is trying to color all criticism of his connection to Jeremiah Wright as racist. That explanation is just not going to work.

Yes, you are right!



25 posted on 04/04/2008 2:00:14 PM PDT by donna ("I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.” - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Not necessary. I am perfectly clam. Hope you are, too.


26 posted on 04/04/2008 2:03:31 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s my 4 point solution to the the race problem in America:

1. Get a job.

2. STFU.

3. Put your shoulder to the wheel just like everyone else.

4. STFU.


27 posted on 04/04/2008 2:04:08 PM PDT by telebob
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To: Kaslin
How many black Americans have given up on their dreams because they've been convinced by race hucksters that the deck is stacked against them?

And, in this regard, the race hucksters have been joined by a presidential candidate's wife. Michelle Obama has taken it upon herself to convince her audience that they can't make it...and should instead settle for low-paying jobs in "the caring industries".

After all, according to her, she and Barack couldn't make it on $500K annually and needed his book royalties to get over the hump...

Better to have low expectations and no dreams at all...

28 posted on 04/04/2008 2:05:57 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: RightWhale

“Not necessary. I am perfectly clam. Hope you are, too.”

No. I am not happy with myself after my remarks to you. The problem is with me and not you.

Thank you.


29 posted on 04/04/2008 2:09:13 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Kaslin
The idea that an Obama presidency would heal racist wounds or 'whatever' our Country is simplistic fatuousnous. REDICulous. . .

Would offer, that instead, 'racism' would see a revival that would throw us back to the 'bad old days'.

30 posted on 04/04/2008 2:46:41 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Kaslin

This article is RACIST! (/sarc)


31 posted on 04/04/2008 2:50:32 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: MindBender26

Sorry. To the best of knowledge (and its pretty good...) there were no black officers in the Confederate regular army. There might have been black “officers” among irregulars, though.

Dunno ‘bout the freemen part, but I don’t think its likely. There were freemen who owned slaves, though. I suppose if a black freeman (and some of ‘em were probably rich enough to do so...) had raised a regiment, he and his officers would have been black or mulatto.


32 posted on 04/04/2008 2:55:23 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Kaslin; All
"People have been calling for national dialogues and conversations for decades. It usually works something like this: Liberals say we need a frank discussion about race (or class or gender) in this country, and then they proceed to bludgeon any conservative stupid enough to take them up on their offer." -- Jonah Goldberg

Everyone always says that they want a national dialogue about race, but what they really seem to want is a national lecture where a liberal mouths politically correct platitudes -- and everyone else is welcome to either nod along or shut up out of fear that they'll be called a racist for daring to have an opinion contrary to left-wing doctrine.

In a way, this is not a fair question because I find myself stereotyping between the groups that I want to compare. But is there arguably a correspondence to be made between the liberals spoken of above and the Democrats addressed in the following locked FR thread?
An Open Letter to The Democratic Party

33 posted on 04/04/2008 2:59:38 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

Thanks for the link


34 posted on 04/04/2008 3:45:20 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: purpleraine
Those who enjoy this topic may want to read Larry Elder’s Ten Things You Can’t Say in America.

Those who abhor this topic need to read Larry Elder’s Ten Things You Can’t Say in America.

35 posted on 04/04/2008 3:49:29 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (This is an Obama-nation!)
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To: RightWhale
I am perfectly clam.

I think there is a lotion for that.

36 posted on 04/04/2008 3:52:29 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (This is an Obama-nation!)
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To: Onelifetogive

point, set and match!


37 posted on 04/04/2008 4:37:57 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: RedEyeJack

The problem with Obama, like most Dems, is a refusal to pinpoint the most important SINGLE cause of the cultural degradation in much of the black community. That cause is the destruction of the 2 parent black family. The precipitate cause of this tragedy was the welfare state created by LBJ and (mostly) the DemocRAT Party. But since Barack He who must not be middle named Obama wants to extend and expand the welfare state to all of America, he is careful to avoid pinpointing the correct conclusion.
When you point out that the Democratic Party’s entire history and policies have been antithetical to the best interests of the black community, and that to the extent that a major political party is responsible for any political and civil liberty that black people have, they owe it to the Republican Party, and even when you can prove that historically and factually the most amazing case of political cognitive dissonance then occurs.

The common response is, well that may be true but only the Democrats are “for us”. They usually go on to recite an entirely erroneous understanding of Nixon’s Southern strategy, a distortion of Berry Goldwater’s principled opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and completely ignore the fact that the Democratic Party was founded amongst other things, to extend slavery into the territory’s. Every Democrat antebellum platform espoused support for slavery. The Democratic Party opposed the 13, 14, and 15th amendments to the United States Constitution, Reconstruction, every bit of foundational civil rights legislation from 1866 to 1968, instituted Jim Crow in the Southern states, refused to enact antilynching laws, and most importantly destroyed the two-parent black family with Lyndon Johnson’s welfare state, “The Great Society.” When you point out the fact that the modern-day Democratic Party is home to the pro-abortion forces that has enhanced the wildly disproportionate abortion rate in the black community, that doesn’t seem to register either.

The black community is in the throes of the worst political brainwashing outside of the Soviet Union and I just don’t know what can be done about it. I constantly engage in debates with people in my community and they are determined to vote for Democrats despite the clear and present evidence of their utterly destructive policies and history. The staggeringly high level of political cognitive dissonance amongst my people is frightening.


38 posted on 04/04/2008 6:38:33 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: telebob

As I fueled this morning, I met a nice “black” woman, complaining about the price of supreme fuel that her Cadillac required.

Yawn.


39 posted on 04/04/2008 8:02:56 PM PDT by Hilltop (Control the high ground. Control the battlefield.)
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To: Tammy8

It’s not the color, it’s the attitude.


40 posted on 04/05/2008 1:48:47 AM PDT by FrankR (OBAMA is the VAST WRIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY...)
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