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"The View" Hosts Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Behar Defend Jack Kevorkian's Murder, Suicides
Life News ^ | 3/26/08 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 03/26/2008 5:09:13 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Ann Archy; wagglebee

Brings a whole new image to makin’ whoopie and jumping for joy. Now I can’t get that horrible thought out of my mind.


41 posted on 03/27/2008 6:32:34 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

LMAO!


42 posted on 03/27/2008 6:37:32 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I do not advocate him assisting people. But I often talk about getting the “Kevorkian drip” when it’s my time to go.


43 posted on 03/27/2008 6:40:19 AM PDT by smartin (The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.)
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To: antceecee
Asking for someone else to kill you is morally wrong.

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It is indeed.

44 posted on 03/27/2008 6:45:01 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

Jack is a joke, too, a joke on our decency. He is a classic serial killer who loves, is obsessed, with his craft and it inflates him with pride and lust for power. You can see it in his pictures. I would not wish to imagine his expression as he sent his subjects to the netherworld.


45 posted on 03/27/2008 6:51:21 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: smartin
But I often talk about getting the “Kevorkian drip” when it’s my time to go.

Why the "Kevorkian drip" and not the "Auschwitz Zyklon B" or the "OJ knife"? Perhaps just a hairdryer in the bathtub or really go all out and build a guillotine.

I'm just curious, how does a person decide what method will be most dramatic? I would think at times like this, flamboyance would be paramount; after all, if someone is going to exude selfishness, they don't want there to be any lingering beliefs that they might care about others.

46 posted on 03/27/2008 6:52:21 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser
He's a happy man!


47 posted on 03/27/2008 6:54:57 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 8mmMauser

IIRC, he was released from prison because he wasn’t healthy enough to stay there. Now that his health seems to have returned, I see no reason why he can’t go back and complete his sentence.


48 posted on 03/27/2008 6:55:54 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
All that is so yesterday. The latest and the most fun and euphoric to the enthusiasts (and their subjects???) is death by dehydration. It can take up to thirteen days and brings untold pleasures to those of the craft.
49 posted on 03/27/2008 6:57:22 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wagglebee
>>I see no reason why he can’t go back and complete his sentence.

I can only imagine some of his subjects couldn't complete their sentences, "Butttt, stop........."

50 posted on 03/27/2008 6:59:23 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: trisham

He just beams. It must really touch his heart really get into his pleasures.


51 posted on 03/27/2008 7:01:15 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

It touches the hearts of his subjects, too.


52 posted on 03/27/2008 7:05:24 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Why not do something really spectacular like jump out of a hot air balloon into a crowded event? It seems rather pointless to have so much hubris and not let everyone know it.


53 posted on 03/27/2008 7:13:44 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Melinda
"And yes, she was in hospice and had as much pain med as she could have."

And yet she was in pain. I understand your distress and I seriously wonder whether this was a kind of palliative-care-malpractice on the part of the hospice.

It was at leat 25 years ago that Dr. Jose Espinosa, an expert in geriatric and terminal cancer care, testified that in all his years of practice " --- but he had seen "intractable doctors and nurses."

And if this was true 25 years ago, I daresay it's even more true now: acupuncture, narcotics, and other pain relief exists which can truly eliminate severe pain in terminal patients. (I say "in terminal patients" because some of these measures would cause side-effects which would not be acceptable for non-terminal patients --- for instance, a pain med that destroys liver function in 8 months --- whereas that is perfectly appropriate for a person who has not that long to live.)

I have heard that some doctors hesitate to- give "cocktails" of narcotic meds at effective doses because they are afraid of legal scrutiny of their use of controlled substances.

In any case, it makes me angry that there are hospices which lag behind in effective comfort care. Here's a good thing to read: the article on the left side of the page about better approaches to end-of-life care.

54 posted on 03/27/2008 7:14:22 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just to be is a Blessing; just to live is Holy." --Rabbi Abraham Heschel)
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To: Melinda
Aren't you glad you did NOT kill you mom! imagen the pain you would be suffering knowing you had killed her even though she was going to die on her own.
Sorry for your loss.
55 posted on 03/27/2008 7:15:33 AM PDT by farmerfriend
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To: BilLies
"Get your nose out of my life/death."

It's a deal.

Some 30,000 Americans commit suicide every year, without manipulatively dragging our major medical, legal, and political structures into it for "assistance" or "permission."

I would argue that it's a wicked and/or a pathetic thing to commit suicide "freelance" --- though who can judge in the case of the clinically depressed or otherwise impaired? But that doesn't even compare to the rotten evil of "legal" or "assisted" suicide where you manipulate and corrupt your own friends and family, and the major institutions of society, as your accomplices.

Doctors, nurses, and hospice workers should not be pulled into the picture as accessories to the deed, because they are, and should be, unalterably committed to the patient's health: and nobody is healthier dead.

Lawyers, judges, and politicians should not be implicated in suicide because they're supposed to be dedicated to our rights and liberties, and death effectively snuffs ALL rights and all liberties.

I have never quite understood why those would-be suicides who say their #1 value is personal autonomy, don't just do it --- like those other 30,000 self-respectng autonomous suicides* --- and leave the rest of us out of it.

* (Hoping the irony here is apparent.)

56 posted on 03/27/2008 7:21:14 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
This one's for you.
57 posted on 03/27/2008 7:22:57 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: antceecee
Well said. I strongly agree.
58 posted on 03/27/2008 7:24:39 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: humblegunner
See also #19.
59 posted on 03/27/2008 7:25:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The irony is apparent to me for sure. I just wonder why Dr. Death doesn't put his money chemicals where his mouth is.
60 posted on 03/27/2008 7:26:47 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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