Posted on 03/25/2008 11:01:30 AM PDT by GVnana
We can’t survive a Hitlery Presidency. At least with McCain we’d get SCOTUS back.
No, I disagree becuase even they won’t Steal the elction, and if they’re as close as possible and the Supers Duper Delagates Pick Highness, then Obama’s People will be mad as h*l* and almost certainly go 3rd Party (lib/Anti-War) are you sure you DON’T want this possiblity. If we keep then 50-100 behind there is less of a chance this will happen, and we want to make Certain there is civil war ;)!
Wouldn’t survive an Obama Presidentcy (He’s so radical, being (muslim), anti-American, Racist, and Marxist) that He may (instead of uniting the US) forment secession in a few states ala the 1860 Election!
Also I don’t think we’ll survive a McCain presidency with his illigal Amnest and slow death of “same” policies that cater more to corporatism/elitists than true Conservatives. It will be Bush but worse (and I am not talking foreign policy..alone)
Why post me with this stuff? Help yourself.
McCain has made it clear he’s going to stick to “the issues” and not indulge in character assassination (i.e. the truth about Obama and Hillary). Here’s a newly discovered wacko anti-Israel “Letter to Oprah” that appeared in Obama’s church bulletin last June:
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-church-published-anti-israel-letter
I bet Team Hillary won’t be heard calling this news a “smear”. But if the Dem race were over, the MSM wouldn’t be interested in anything but the motivations of whoever brought the letter to light. But now, Dem superdelegates will wonder how this will affect Obama’s chances among Jewish voters, but can’t do anything to prevent his nomination without splitting the party.
“I do reject John McCain and the GOP for constantly sacrificing Conservative values to appease socilaists.”
Ok, fair enough. A lot of others disagree with you BTW. A lot are realists who see this as a long term strategy to do everything possible to stop or slow down Socialism. Allowing Hillary or Obama into the White House is a huge win for Socialists and helps advance their Agenda decades. McCain, not so much, if at all. Still remains to be seen eh? I will take my chances with McCain rather then 100% all out Left Wing Socialism under Obama or Hildebeast.
You are on record as one who openly hates and rejects the GOP. So do all the KOSmunists and DailyDummies so you have company there should you chose. If that is the case, then what differance could it possibly make to you if Operation Chaos - Rush The Vote goes into action? McCain is it. There isn’t time for anything else.
Again, so what differance does it make to you then? Tick, tock, chirp....chirp...
“You need to learn reading Comprehension. I stated that I am voting for Obama in the Primary, not the General. I’m behind McCain all the way. McCain is much, much better than either of the Rats. It’s just that Hitlery is a much more difficult candidate to beat, and Obama can’t win.
Hence, if we really want to help McCain, we need to ensure that Obama, not Hitlery, is the nominee.
McCain wins a matchup against Obama everytime.
HE CANNOT BEAT THE BEAST. She will take OH, PA, MI, and NJ and thus, the Presidency. BY HOOK OR CROOK.”
That’s where we’ll just have to disagree. See, you are assuming that if Hillary makes it to Denver, she is the automatic nominee - that is a false assumption. She’s not getting the nomination no matter what - especially after the Bosnia BS she got nailed on. But what it will guarantee is a Rat party torn assunder which should be the goal of all Conservatives. Also, for every poll you can show McCain beating Obama, there is one showing Obama beating McCain. Besides, still far too early. Maximum damage inflicted on Rats can only help McCain and the GOP from now until Denver.
“Wouldn’t survive an Obama Presidentcy (He’s so radical, being (muslim), anti-American, Racist, and Marxist) that He may (instead of uniting the US) forment secession in a few states ala the 1860 Election!
Also I don’t think we’ll survive a McCain presidency with his illigal Amnest and slow death of “same” policies that cater more to corporatism/elitists than true Conservatives. It will be Bush but worse (and I am not talking foreign policy..alone”
Ok, so in one clear sentence - of the potential winners for POTUS in November, which candidate do YOU WANT to win??
If you support none, but it doesn’t matter what you think because ONE of them WILL be POTUS - then why do you care at this point who wins or doesn’t win this year?
“That would be a true statement if it weren't for the fact the GOP has moved so far to the left that it has aligned itself with the socialist Democrats to the point they are essentially one party. Voting for a conservative in another party would restore the two party system and advance the conservative cause.”
If you SINCERELY believe that to be true, then please explain to everyone how Operation Chaos / Rush The Vote would matter to you one way or the other, one iota?
“Hillary was winning Ohio without Rush et al.”
Actually, without Rush The Vote cross-overs, she would have lost Ohio and would have probably dropped out of the race by now.
Once Obama wins the nomination, he’ll tack toward the center and begin wooing the Independents and RHINOs. He’s said he’s not closed to the idea of school voucers, for instance. He’s mentioned means testing social security, for another. Obama is running on his ability to build bridges across party lines in order to accomplish “big things”. That scares me to death, because once in office his blackness and his seeming amiability will keep all the Dems and many Reps from opposing those big Marxist things.
The unlikable Hillary, poll driven as much as Bill ever was, will shoot for modest changes, because that’s the best she can achieve. Not so Obama.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
None, I suppose Hillary C would galvanize a future Republican Party..
I will vote 3rd party for the first time.
The reason I care is the more chaos, the more likely we are to get a split election with 3, 4 or 5 parties vying for the POTUS election, in this situaion with 4 being leftists (including RINO McKerry) and 1 being Conservative-through hard work and Providence on our side we will have a good shot of getting a true Conservative President! Its one of the only ways..IMO!
I don’t understand why people think Hillary will be easier to beat than Obama. Once Obama gets the nomination, the MSM, believing that McCain has unfairly benefitted from the Dem race, will come after him with a vengeance and studiously avoid any negative reporting of Obama. If she loses the nomination, Hillary will no longer batter Obama, since she’ll need to gain back cred she lost with black Dems.
If Hillary were the nominee anointed unfairly by super delegates, embittered Obama supporters will be attacking her all the way to November. which is something McCain has pledged he won’t do.
Obama absolutely, positively cannot win the general election. Hillary has about a 50-50 shot, but Obama would go down in flames and take a lot of lower ticket ‘Rats down with him.
Do you realize that only three U.S. states have ever elected a black to a top tier office (excluding the Reconstruction years after the Civil War)? One of them is Massachusetts, possibly our most liberal state. The other is Illinois, which has elected two blacks to the U.S. Senate under flukish circumstances. The third is Virginia, where a moderate-sounding black guy barely won the governorship against a weak opponent who practically threw the election to him.
Why would anyone believe that an ultra-leftist black like Obama, whose middle name is Hussein, and who has now been exposed as having a racist anti-white, anti-American mentor, would have the chance of a snowball in hell of winning election to the presidency? Not to mention his big mouthed racist wife.
Rush was insane for keeping Hillary’s candidacy alive, UNLESS he was doing it because he wants the GOP to lose this time around. Hillary can beat McCain. It would be close and could go either way. Obama, though, would lose catastrophically for the ‘Rats.
I don't agree with you. For so many, many reasons.
You seem to think he'll lose votes because he's black. I think that's the main reason he got as far as he has.
Democrats especially love the race issue because they've got a history of supporting slavery they want buried once and for all. For them, it's a symbolic victory. They don't care that he's a socialist. Get real.
The more you talk about him being "anti-white", the more you're going to get called a racist.
As far as keeping the Dem contest alive, I had my doubts about this at first. But after seeing what it's accomplished, it's the biggest break would could ever have.
Michael Steele to Bob Beckel: "Thanks for the music!"
“Obama absolutely, positively cannot win the general election. Hillary has about a 50-50 shot, but Obama would go down in flames and take a lot of lower ticket ‘Rats down with him.”
Oh Reeeallly? “absolutely?”, “positively?” Famous last words that many have had to eat later throughout history after they uttered them.
With the “I-Was-In-Combat-In-Bosnia lie, Hillary now will be massively 527 Swiftboated out of existance if she were to win the nomination with ads centered around her Bosina Combat Lies vs McCain actually spending five years in the Hanoi Hilton after being shot down.
However, your entire premise is wrong. Operation Chaos has NOTHING to do with trying to get Hillary the nomination. How hard is it to get through some thick heads anyway?
Now, we understand that there are Republicans who are so afraid of Hillary they pretty much have to change their diapers whenever they see or hear her. They have a panic attack, massive anxiety. Well we all suffered under the Clintons but they are done for, time to accept it.
Other Republicans have a bit more moxie and realize the Clintons are Cooked. They are done. Stick a fork in ‘em. Their popularity ratings have plummeted and there is no getting back the black or hard Left vote for the Clintons. Those voters will revenge-vote for McCain rather than see Hillary elected.
On the flip side, it’s the Independent votes that will decide the election and they are still solidly in the Obama camp even after the Reverend Wrong flap. Just because you can’t stand the thought of a black being the POTUS doesn’t mean the rest of the nation is on board with you in that sentiment. I’m to the right of Atila and I find Obama, Reverend Wrong flap aside, as very appealing and I can see how their are some light-weight Republicans even actually voting for him. Do not underestimate the Independent vote. In a McCain-Hillary match up the Indies break far more for McCain because he proven “Maverick” tendencies works in his favor. And Hillary has already lost at least 25% of the 50% that are now in the Obama camp. That plus the indies means that McCain wins landslide against Hillary in November - but I doubt she will be the nominee.
See, what you fail to see is that this is an exercise in inflicting the maximum amount of damage on the Democrat party. What is so hard to understand about that concept?
It’s past time to start thinking outside the political box and go for a win using whatever stratagy works or presents it’self.
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