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Lost state still has independent streak [Nor Cal]
AP via Yahoo ^ | Mon Mar 17, 4:04 PM ET | MICHELLE LOCKE

Posted on 03/17/2008 7:43:42 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan

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1 posted on 03/17/2008 7:43:43 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: SierraWasp

Something worth dreaming about.


2 posted on 03/17/2008 7:44:16 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When you choose the lesser of two evils, you still have evil.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I’ve always thought there should be a North California and a South California.


3 posted on 03/17/2008 7:46:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Isn’t San Francisco a Communist State?


4 posted on 03/17/2008 7:48:20 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Can see the bumper stickers now:

“I didn’t leave California, California left me”


5 posted on 03/17/2008 7:49:25 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: ElkGroveDan

Betcha money if this were tried today, it would be a People’s Commune filled with nothign but hippy-dippies?


6 posted on 03/17/2008 7:51:43 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

BTTT


7 posted on 03/17/2008 7:53:38 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ElkGroveDan

I always get a kick out of seeing the barn sign on my way up to Seattle from Sacramento. I never knew the history behind it though. Beautiful countryside out there!


8 posted on 03/17/2008 7:53:39 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: ElkGroveDan
Not the only "lost state".

"Franklin", lasted four years and later became part on TN.

9 posted on 03/17/2008 7:56:55 PM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Ya let one of these rabble-rousing groups form their own State and pretty soon there will be more. My guess is there are 3 potential new States in Colorado alone all being pretty much ignored by Denver (way South, way East and the Western slope).

Can’t say that I blame them one bit. But, for each new States we’d have two more Congress-critters. The old state would lose Reps while the new States would pick them up. Odds are these new States, most in relatively remote areas, would be considerably more conservative and well.... we just can have THAT now can we!


10 posted on 03/17/2008 7:57:25 PM PDT by mad puppy (Never have I felt so politically radical and I swear I didn't move an inch.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

California should be three states:

(seriously: all three would still be in the upper tier for population)

Norte California: The Southern third of current California. Los Angeles, Hollywood, and the Metropolis surrounding LA. In reality, quickly merging with “Baja California” to the south - thus the new moniker.

Urban Northern California. This new City/State should have a new age name of some sort. Perhaps it could be named Starchild.

Rural California: Central Coast from Santa Barbara, to Monterey, and inland to Nevada.

That would turn things around.

Way things are now, the state will implode soon.


11 posted on 03/17/2008 7:59:12 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I’ve always thought there should be a North California and a South California.

We in Northern California would love that. We'd settle for taking the City of Sacramento since the rest of our state would make up for it.

But the question would be who gets stuck with the Bay Area, which is neither Northern or Southern California. Which is why there's always been a discussion of three states.

12 posted on 03/17/2008 8:06:37 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When you choose the lesser of two evils, you still have evil.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I wish my state could split. The east side is far more conservative than the west although the west is generally dominated by King County, electorally speaking anyway.


13 posted on 03/17/2008 8:09:20 PM PDT by Grunthor (I have no representative government, I am a conservative.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Isn’t there a well-established procedure for creating a new state?

Can liberals in Sacramento force people to stay, if they don’t want to?

Build a legal “Berlin Wall”, to keep people from escaping?...


14 posted on 03/17/2008 8:10:01 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Except in California east/west is now a bigger divide than north/south.

California needs to be broken up and those states that comprise Greater Massachusetts should be consolidated.

Three may not be enough pieces to break California up into. Besides, there are decent, civil parts of Oregon that make up part of the Klamath basin and should be part of the “Jefferson” - Arguably everything south of Lesser Portland. It would be cruel to leave the Inland Empire in the malicious hands of Greater LA.

80% of California is a great place. The problem is, Greater LA, SF/SJ and Sac have enough population to dominate the good parts.


15 posted on 03/17/2008 8:10:57 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Yes. I spent some of the best moments of my life there in the wilderness. Now...that I’m far away...I relive it in my dreams.


16 posted on 03/17/2008 8:12:55 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

That’s a cliche, but it’s at the root of what’s wrong with California - and why people are leaving.

Liberals have enough votes, to not only dominate the lives of everyone in a massive state from a couple looped-out leftist enclaves, but they also can throw national elections.

They run Hollywood, Sacramento and San Francisco, and as everyone knows, they simply know what’s best for all of us.

Sanctimonious dweebs.

Seriously. I bet it would work. I really do.


17 posted on 03/17/2008 8:13:55 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I remember reading about a proposal to carve California into 3 states some years ago (late 1980s or early 1990s?). I think the line dividing the northernmost state from the central state would have run a little bit north of Sacramento. It never got to the voters for their Yes or No.


18 posted on 03/17/2008 8:18:28 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: HerrBlucher

Be sure to stop at The Olive Pit on the way—that’s a must. Then at Mount Shasta, take time to soak yourself in Indian Hot Springs...a natural outdoor jacuzzi, far out in the wilderness...or spend a day or two absorbing the sunlight at Squaw Meadow on The Mountain... And tell everybody I miss ‘em...!


19 posted on 03/17/2008 8:18:48 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: ElkGroveDan

40 years ago, the Flower children flocked to Northern Kalifornia. They began their communes, smoked their pot and talked to the sea lions to communicate.

NOW, the flower fogies have evolved. They tend their communes. They smoke their pot and they mumble to the sea lions to communicate.

So much progress.


20 posted on 03/17/2008 8:27:24 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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