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Potter Author JK Rowling Equates Christians Who Avoid Potter with Islamic Fundamentalists
Life Site News ^ | 3-12-08 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 03/17/2008 7:44:22 AM PDT by Terriergal

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To: metmom

“Christ never taught revenge or oppression. He never forced or coerced people to faith. His teachings are to love and forgive as He has loved and forgiven us.”

What about his Father...THE Father?


321 posted on 03/17/2008 6:18:27 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: EyeGuy
I have issues with her deciding after the fact, to do the hip and inclusive thing and tab Dumbledore a queer.

that bugged me too...

322 posted on 03/17/2008 6:19:24 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: TommyDale
Yeah, when is the last time Christians called for beheading of an author?

Four more posts.

323 posted on 03/17/2008 6:22:08 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Twinkie

Oh, get a grip. You obviously haven’t even read the material.

The EVIL wizards tormented everyone, including muggles.

The good wizards fought to protect everyone, including muggles.

They have an entire division dedicated to protecting muggles.
Many of the wizards have muggle parents, who are shown nothing but love and respect.


324 posted on 03/17/2008 6:24:47 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Vote for The Huckster 2012- Who needs White House furniture, anyway?)
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To: Doe Eyes

I suspect you failed to see the sarcasm.


325 posted on 03/17/2008 6:33:33 PM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Terriergal

I’m a Christian and I despise Harry Potter, not so much because I believe it’s evil as I believe it’s boring spoon-fed media-hyped garbage.

That said, I like Pope Benedict more and more every day, and I’m not even Catholic!


326 posted on 03/17/2008 6:36:40 PM PDT by Stimpson_J_Cat
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To: Terriergal
But I have talked to many Christians who have read the books and seen NOTHING of the gospel in them. They may be entertaining books but they are just as gospel-void as the Purpose Driven Life.

What are you saying, that no piece of art, no piece of literature, no creation of man, is worthwhile unless it invokes the gospel? By that standard, the latest piece of kitsch by Thomas Kinkade is fine art because he paints a Christian fish in the corner, but a Monet is garbage because he didn't.

Does that extend into scientific and technical fields as well? You have one set of plans for a bridge that follows proper practices and principles of engineering, and one that may not, but hey, the designer included quotes from scripture in the CAD drawings! Which bridge are you going to drive over?

327 posted on 03/17/2008 7:38:50 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: Bob J
Isn’t the Bible the Word of God? The WHOLE Bible?

But is the Bible the whole Word of God? It's a large text, but not THAT large. The Bible is a compilation. And that compilation was done by man (instigated by Constantine).

The History Channel actually had a fairly good program entitled: "Banned Books of the Bible". They were not necessarily banned because they contradicted the canon (some were), but there was no way to weave them into the narrative that is the Bible without compromising the flow they wished to establish. Either because they [other books] focused too much on other players and not the primaries. Such as Mother Mary rather than Jesus. Went off on a tangent, or because they were written too late after the fact, were simply unknown at the time, or any number of other reasons.

328 posted on 03/17/2008 8:03:38 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Politicalmom

Do you think maybe you can go about defending the damned books without resorting to dumb “harry potter-speak”?

Many of us don’t know what a “muggle” is and don’t much care either.


329 posted on 03/17/2008 10:09:01 PM PDT by Stimpson_J_Cat
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To: Stimpson_J_Cat

I wasn’t responding to you.

The person I WAS responding to thinks she knows what a muggle is.


330 posted on 03/17/2008 10:21:37 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Vote for The Huckster 2012- Who needs White House furniture, anyway?)
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To: Ken H

Jesus did not comment on the subject to my knowledge. Jesus preached compassions and forgiveness. If I understand your implications correctly, I believe you may be assigning the statements of of some Christians to Jesus, but Jesus himself did not condemn people for sins.


331 posted on 03/17/2008 10:26:06 PM PDT by John Robie
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To: AFreeBird; Gabz

Lets put it this way-— I have a low opinion of the Potter movies and books. If your child is exposed to them then a very strong counter balance of conventional religious education is needed. This looks like your situation

But for too many children they get the Potter but no Moses or Jesus and no bible stories for children


332 posted on 03/18/2008 12:02:55 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: John Robie
My understanding of fundamentalist Christians' belief is the following. Humans are sinful by nature, and they are all condemned to eternal torment - unless they accept Jesus as their Savior.

If that is so, then I don't see how Jews avoid damnation. For that matter, the vast majority of everyone who has ever lived and died is doomed to Hell.

Can you reconcile that with the idea of a loving, merciful deity?

333 posted on 03/18/2008 12:11:38 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Twinkie; Terriergal; Xenalyte
Yep. All we need is more of the “dark side” to influence children to torment the “muggles” (that’s the most of us plain old people, I suppose - the pluggers, the human). By the time a kid realizes they aren’t a warlock, a wizard or a witch, it’ll be a grand wakeup call.

Dismaying trash
Instead of having imaginations stimulated by warlocks witches and wizards, children should have imaginations stimulated by bible stories for children. Bible is old and reliable guide to proper behavior

Yet Rowlings and others want to compete with that....and they fail and confuse young minds but get stupid rich in the process. I'm sure the pagans that govern the EU are very pleased with this

334 posted on 03/18/2008 12:11:59 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: dennisw

What do you think of the wizardry portrayed in Lord of the Rings, or in Narnia?


335 posted on 03/18/2008 12:17:58 AM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
What do you think of the wizardry portrayed in Lord of the Rings, or in Narnia?

Not as bad due to Christian author. Christian themes buried in Tolkien tales

There is a fierce competition for children's minds these days. In the past Christianity had the upper hand as far as what tales and narratives children got inculcated with. These days it is pushed aside by aggressive hucksters such as Disney and Rowlings

Plus these days we have movies which is a much more powerful indoctrination medium than ye old Sunday school where the children get read bible stories and read bible stories and learn .... Not nearly so high impact as a stupid Potter movie with shape shifting wizards goblins etc etc

 

336 posted on 03/18/2008 12:37:56 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: dennisw

If an author claims to be a Christian, and many, if not most readers see a Christian theme in a story, what qualifies you to claim otherwise.

I am particularly interested in how you interpret the ending of Harry Potter as unChristian or anti-Christian. What specifically about going willingly to one’s death in order to save one’s friends and defeat evil is unChristian or anti-Christian?


337 posted on 03/18/2008 12:57:17 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Twinkie

You haven’t read any of the books, have you?


338 posted on 03/18/2008 1:46:51 AM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: js1138
If an author claims to be a Christian, and many, if not most readers see a Christian theme in a story, what qualifies you to claim otherwise.

People find Christian themes in Potter books and movies? My own take is Rowlings is a loose cannon and writes what she will write. No deep references to anything. She is over interpreted and people see stuff that she never intended

I am particularly interested in how you interpret the ending of Harry Potter as unChristian or anti-Christian. What specifically about going willingly to one’s death in order to save one’s friends and defeat evil is unChristian or anti-Christian?

Harry Potter cannot end too soon. I can find more Christian themes in Winnie the Pooh, Alice in Wonderland and Barbar the elephant

339 posted on 03/18/2008 1:50:29 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: TommyDale

If there are Christians issuing death threats to her, then those “Christians” are like Islamic Fundamentalists and her comparison is perfectly valid. She’s not comparing ALL Christians to Islamists, that’s silly. She’s Christian herself.


340 posted on 03/18/2008 1:50:58 AM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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