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Fears that new liquidity cycle will stoke inflation
Financial Times ^ | March 16 2008 | Chris Flood

Posted on 03/16/2008 6:28:49 PM PDT by Aristotelian

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To: 4Liberty
If prices for loans drop, firms with a very good productivity improvement prospect don't necessarily borrow more money.

Firms borrow to expand or retool. There may well be limits to how fast they can handle new capital, or possibly they have a saturated market and there's no reason to expand.

A major drop in demand for new loans can unleash deflationary forces.

Watch the price of houses drop like a rock!

21 posted on 03/16/2008 7:18:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Aristotelian

Where do they get .75????

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1986781/posts


22 posted on 03/16/2008 7:25:12 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: trumandogz
We're nowhere near what inflation was during the Carter years.

Inflation is around 4% over what it was this time last year. Triple that value and you get about what it was just before Carter left office.

23 posted on 03/16/2008 7:26:44 PM PDT by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: trumandogz
Jimmy Carter inflation of the 1070's.

Wow, I knew that dude was old!!!!

24 posted on 03/16/2008 7:28:13 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: raisetheroof
We're nowhere near what inflation was during the Carter years.

Inflation no, devaluation of the dollar yes.

Inflation and Devaluation are different sides of the same coin.

25 posted on 03/16/2008 7:32:13 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: bjs1779

Spices and herbs. Now that’s a business. Buy by the ton, sell by the ounce.


26 posted on 03/16/2008 7:32:51 PM PDT by Aristotelian ("I have a million ideas. The country can't afford them all." Hillary Clinton)
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To: TheBattman

The discount rate was cut Sunday by 25 basis points. It’s expected the Fed will cut the Fed Funds rate by 75 basis points at its Tuesday FOMC meeting. Two different interest rates.


27 posted on 03/16/2008 7:36:32 PM PDT by Aristotelian ("I have a million ideas. The country can't afford them all." Hillary Clinton)
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To: Iron Munro
Take away their printing presses.

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28 posted on 03/16/2008 7:44:47 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: raisetheroof

Our inflation is much more than 4%, remember that they don’t count fuel and some other things anymore.


29 posted on 03/16/2008 8:01:32 PM PDT by Paperpusher
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Speak for yourself...5%-8% inflation vs. my 1% per year wage growth...I just don’t like those numbers!


30 posted on 03/16/2008 8:03:57 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: Kent1957

Ye they do count fuel and food. They calculate both with and without. With food/fuel it’s at 4%, and without it’s at 2.3% or such.


31 posted on 03/16/2008 8:51:27 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Aristotelian

You can’t spend $1T on a war — with no budgetary sacrifices — without consequences.


32 posted on 03/16/2008 9:01:08 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: reefdiver
"Not a big shopper, but stopped by a Wal Mart , packed, had to walk the long walk. All the malls were packed. Lot’s of money was passed , goods purchased, restaurants packed. Some body saying all over America this is going to stop tomorrow, or by Friday? Probely not. Go on with your lives, These people belong some where else, not here. God bless ya all , Going to bed."

Lots of brisk shopping in my neck of the woods too. A huge shopping village opened just three days ago. Smiles everywhere and money flowing like water. All the shopping centers where busy, restraunts too. Grocery prices were not more than usual when I shopped today. So will all that end tomorrow?

33 posted on 03/16/2008 10:27:33 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

Do any of you remember from Eco 101. the Weimeire (sp) control of Germany after the 1st World War??


34 posted on 03/16/2008 10:43:36 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
Smiles everywhere and money flowing like water.

Why would people be smiling when they are running up their credit cards and sending money to China?

35 posted on 03/17/2008 12:49:38 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: muawiyah
This drives down interest rates, and as they decline fewer and fewer people invest in lending institutions.

This is textbook stuff. But we're not close to a textbook environment. For one thing the interest rates are not set by the market, essentially they are set by the Fed. The Fed is all for low interest rates to make lots of money available. Investment in lending institutions, or lack thereof, has almost zero to do with the money supply in todays world.

36 posted on 03/17/2008 3:40:34 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
The Fed sets rates for certain regulated transactions (deposits and withdrawals, bond sales). That's not all the transactions that exist. Consequently a very large business operation like Wal-Mart can hold the line on inflation through astute bargaining (buy mass quantities low, sell retail cheap) and at the same time plough profits back into capital expansion and NEVER NEED TO BORROW MONEY!

The effective interest rate for a Wal-Mart can be 0% if they wish.

Then there's the credit card ~ make your own money!

37 posted on 03/17/2008 5:40:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TheBattman

0% wage growth is better than being fired with little prospect for a new job. Many people would say taking a wage cut is better.

What I suggested is inflation with a purpose—to stop a recession. That means it has to be strictly managed, or it will turn into stagflation, like during Carter, or worsen the recession.

Right now, food, perhaps our most controlled market, is being strongly inflated by artificial shortage, i.e. ethanol. Will this act, or can it be made to act, as a counterbalance against the housing recession?

The big questions is, since using food for ethanol makes little sense, is there going to be either a halt in its production, or is agriculture going to expand to provide food for market needs? That could cause a huge shift in the price of the next crop cycle.

Perhaps the best thing Bernanke could do would be to demand that Congress slash federal government spending by a huge amount. Literally suspend operations in much of the government.

Federal government chart:

tinyurl.com/ysnd68

This would pour huge amounts of capital into the federal coffers and strengthen the treasury. Several hundred billion dollars not being spent in a month would be a powerful tool to tackle market problems.

At this point, we have to consider alternatives that were unthinkable not too long ago.


38 posted on 03/17/2008 5:46:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: trumandogz
Again, "deflation" is a consequence of more than one force. For example, oversupply can lead to "deflation" ~ and in that sense, "inflation" caused by undersupply would be another side of that coin.

At the same time, productivity improvement can also lead to "deflation" ~ with neither oversupply nor undersupply.

Computers, for example, have improved and their production has become less costly. Although there's no oversupply of computers, the price has been dropping like a rock anyway.

39 posted on 03/17/2008 5:50:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Ethanol production is being undertaken on the back of an increase in the corn crop sufficient for that task. Grain prices are going through the roof because, alas, the Southern Hemispheric wheat crop FAILED in 2007.

Yup, they had a big ol' drought, and production went to the basement.

Whereas we normally have a 60 day world supply of wheat we are down to a 30 day world supply of wheat.

Give us enough humidity and precipitation this Summer and the Northern Hemispheric wheat crop will produce a bumper crop and the price of wheat will fall back into a normal pattern.

Now, a grim prediction ~ give us a cool but dry Summer and wheat production will fall here too, and you'll see $50 wheat. At that point corn prices will begin to skyrocket.

40 posted on 03/17/2008 5:56:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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