Catholics take to the street!
Catholic rage boy gets a medal
Posted on 03/14/2008 8:39:03 AM PDT by bs9021
Touch my child, go to the hospital.
Glad to see I wouldn't be alone in the county lockup :)
Catholics take to the street!
Catholic rage boy gets a medal
I stand ready to accept your offer of fully paid tuition at the local Catholic School for the next 12 years for our two daughters. Thanks!
1) Our kids had no bedrooms until the oldest was about 7. They slept on mats on the living room floor.
2) We had no new furniture.
3) We drove used cars.
4) We lived in a welfare Section 8 neighborhood.
5) Our clothing came from Good Will and I made any Sunday clothing that I wore.
6) We had a large garden and grew a lot of our fruits and vegetables.
I know of one family that literally lived in a tent! They were parents of 10 homeschooled children. The father was a construction worker. In the summer they moved to North and used state camp grounds. In the winter they went South.
For most families that I know private schooling and/or homeschooling is an option. They just don't want to make the downgrade in their lifestyle.
Sounds familiar: We live in a trailer park (1973 doublewide) and drive a 1990 Geo Metro and a couple old trucks and many of my clothes come from the thrift store. Nearly all the childrens’ do. The part about not enough bedrooms sounds VERY familiar! Neither of us is able to work enough to amount to anything but fortunately, through the Grace of God, I have reasonable savings.
Things at public school aren't so bad currently because the kindergarten and first grade teachers essentially share the same values we do. This is a very conservative area. But I am still concerned about middle school and beyond, especially when state law will force immoral curricula.
I don't have the temperament to home school myself but my wife does quite a bit of it as a supplement to public school. But as she grew up in a foreign country without access to much education she won't be able to do that through high school. Good luck to you and your family: you sound like very nice and capable people!
Steve
I have a suggestion:
Conservatives should start private foundations that would award private scholarships to students attending private schools. These conservative foundations could also award grants to conservative teachers willing to open mini-schools, micro-schools, one room school houses, virtual schools, tutoring centers, and one room school houses.
The scholarship foundations should look to today's technology and encourage innovative ways to deliver education. The brick and mortar school should be abandoned. It is expensive, has many regulation issues, and it is cruel to warehouse children like prisoners.
The foundations should also sponsor sports leagues. Our government schools are essentially running taxpayer monopoly farm teams for the big leagues, and offering an alternative would wean many communities away from their loyalty to their government schools.
Is this possible? Yes! If colleges and universities can have endowments in the billions, conservatives could do this for K-12 education.
Conservatives should STOP looking to churches to offer an alternative to the atheistic government schools. Ministers are NOT going to step up to the challenge. There are too many government employees sitting in the pews, and no minister is going to bite the hand that feeds him.
Catholic and Protestant Christians MUST solve this on their own without the help of their churches. As more parents move out of the government system the churches will be more willing to establish schools.
Public education went off a cliff generations ago. What we’re seeing now is the impact of hitting the rocks.
Please note that there's a BIG constitutional problem concerning the idea of secular educational settings.
Up to the late 1830s, local communities decided what was taught in their schools. In fact, all schools up to that time could be regarded as private schools that taught the local flavor of Christianity. Local schools were well within their 10th A. powers to do so.
But things changed in the late 1830s. More specifically, Protestant state lawmakers got spooked by large numbers of Catholic immigrants. Protestant lawmakers didn't want Catholicism to spread and so made state-level laws, the infamous Blaine laws, which prevented Catholicism from being taught in local, community-supported schools. Local schools, called common schools, under Protestant influence essentially tried to force Catholic children to learn Protestant Christian beliefs.
The reason that Protestant Christianity is no longer taught in public schools is as follows. Justice Black was a Baptist and probably shared the beliefs of some Baptists that Matthew 22:21 was God's call for absolute c&s separation. When Justice Black got the opportunity to force his personal beliefs regarding absolute c&s separtion into religion-related public school cases, he did so. And here's how he did it...
Justice Black decided in the Everson case that Jefferson's "wall of separation" meant that the establishment clause was meant to apply to the states.
However...
"Former" Klansman Justice Black "overlooked" that Jefferson had also acknowledged that the Founders had written the 1st and 10th Amendments in part to reserve government power to address religious issues uniquely to the states. In fact, Jefferson had done so on at least three occasions. See for yourself.
"3. Resolved that it is true as a general principle and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the constitution that ‘the powers not delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively or to the people’: and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, & were reserved, to the states or the people..." --Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions, 1798. http://tinyurl.com/oozooSo by quoting Jefferson to help justify his scandalous interpretation of the establishment clause, Justice Black essentially quoted the worst possible person to pull off his dirty work."In matters of religion, I have considered that its free exercise is placed by the Constitution independent of the powers of the general government. I have therefore undertaken on no occasion to prescribe the religious exercises suited to it; but have left them as the Constitution found them, under the direction and discipline of State or Church authorities acknowledged by the several religious societies." --Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural Address, 1805. ME 3:378 http://tinyurl.com/jmpm3
"I consider the government of the United States as interdicted by the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their doctrines, discipline, or exercises. This results not only from the provision that no law shall be made respecting the establishment or free exercise of religion, but from that also which reserves to the states the powers not delegated to the United States. Certainly, no power to prescribe any religious exercise or to assume authority in religious discipline has been delegated to the General Government. It must then rest with the states, as far as it can be in any human authority." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Miller, 1808. http://tinyurl.com/nkdu7
Finally, the reason that little is being done about perverted interpretations of the Constitution by corrupt justices is because ignorance of the Constitution and how the government is supposed to work is epidemic. Widespread constitutional ignorance is evidenced by the following links.
http://tinyurl.com/npt6tThe consequence of widespread constitutional ignorance is that both federal and state governments are walking all over our freedoms, particularly our religious freedoms as evidenced by the politically correct idea of "secular educational settings."
http://tinyurl.com/hehr8
The bottom line is that the people need to reconnect with the intentions of the Founders as reflected by the Constitution and its history, particularly where the teaching of religion to our children is concerned, people's 14th A. protections respected. The people need to quit sitting on their hands and petition lawmakers, judges and justices who are not upholding their oaths to defend the Constitution, demanding that they resign from their jobs.
Public education went off a cliff generations ago.
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Government schools have ALWAYS been a constitutional and freedom of conscience nightmare. They are now, and they always will be.
Government schools and the First Amendment and free of conscience can not coexist. It is axiomatic!
The bottom line is that the people need to reconnect with the intentions of the Founders as reflected by the Constitution and its history
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If our Founders could have forseen compulsory government schooling as it exists today, they would have specifically included freedom from government education in our Bill of Rights!
There may not have been a 10th Amendment conflict to having government schools, but compulsory attendance, compulsory funded government schools have ALWAYS been in conflict with every right outlined in the First Amendment.
Government schools are NOT now, never have been, and never will be compatible with the First Amendment! This is true even if the school district were the size of a suburban subdivision block! One neighbor gets to threaten the other neighbor with armed police action if they do not subject their children to the government's NON-NEUTRAL political, cultural and religious worldview!
One neighbor gets to force another neighbor's child ( who has committed no crime) into government prison-like buildings. The government tells the child to shut up. The government forbids unapproved publishing and the right to freely practice and express religious belief. It is the government who determines with whom the child will assemble. And,,,Finally, the government subjects the child to non-stop government proselytizing in the government religion which is atheistic Secular Humanism at present.
Let’s assume, as you say, that the teacher was fresh off the ship from Pluto and didn’t have a calendar, most of which say “Ash Wednesay” on, you know, Ash Wednesday.
So, we’ll assume all that. Why did the teacher touch the child? Because, I’m sorry, I can’t set the physical contact issue aside. And I can’t set aside that there is a teacher teaching anywhere that is unaware of Christian Culture to the degree that this one would have had to have been.
If the are that culturally unaware, they should not be teaching. If they were aware and have some prejudice against Catholics, they should not be teaching. And finally, if they can’t keep their hands to themselves, they should not be teaching.
How much would the total be? I know what I am paying for two (about $7000 in NJ, one of the highest cost of living states).
What level of sacrifice would be worth an education which is Christian, which is equal or more likely superior to the Public schools academically, and which ensures your kids are not propagandized all year with homosexual, anti-Christian, liberal, multi-culti indoctrination?
I pay the tuition check with a smile.
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I homeschooled, so my expenses to **ransom** my children from the police enforced government indoctrination camps were:
1) About $500/child in books and supplies.
2) Loss of my income per year. ( I hold a doctorate in one of the very highest paying health professions.)
There were no private schools in our area that were supportive to our family's sect of Christianity, so homeschooling was our only option.
What I resent are 2 things:
1) That unless I paid extra, the government literally had police power over our lives. ( Real bullets in those guns on the hip.) Government school brown shirts could literally send out foster care workers with the power to make our lives hell on earth!
2) That I not only supported the education of my own children, but I was forced ( under threat of imprisonment) to pay for the government's godless, Secular Humanist, Marxist religious proselytizing of other people's children in the government indoctrination camps!
I am not smiling. :-(
One family I know lived in a tent ( literally!) with their 10 kids. They homeschooled all of them. The dad was a construction worker. In the winter they moved South. In the summer he worked in the North. At least this family was not paying property taxes that fed the godless religion of the government schools!
I’m not sure what kind of an additional sacrifice I can make. We don’t have any income now.
Well that is certainly an extreme example. I’m sorry. I hope you find work soon.
That is not the normal situation.
No, I didn’t mean it that way. We aren’t hurting, just frugal. Although I had to stop working 9 years ago, the Lord has graced us with (most) everything we need, including substantial savings which we’ve only drawn down by 10% after all these years. I bet not many people who DID HAVE two incomes all this time can live for almost a decade on a fraction of their savings! Save as much as you can in your 401K, IRA, or just plain savings!
I should have added — if public school conditions around here deteriorate to the point they are unacceptable — that hasn’t happened yet, IMO — we will have to use savings to send the kids to a Christian school. Although the idea of that still makes me uncomfortable, since it will be a big chunk never to be replaced.
I understand.
But then again, the original question stands.
What level of sacrifice would be worth an education which is Christian?
Which is equal or more likely superior to the Public schools academically?
Which ensures your kids are not propagandized all year with homosexual, anti-Christian, liberal, multi-culti indoctrination?
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