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Priest-Cosmologist Wins $1.6 Million Templeton Prize
New York Times ^
| 03/13/2008
| Brenda Goodman
Posted on 03/14/2008 5:08:51 AM PDT by iowamark
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Michael Heller, 72, winner of this years prize. He says science and religion are prerequisites of the decent existence.
Templeton Prize bio
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posted on
03/14/2008 5:08:52 AM PDT
by
iowamark
To: iowamark
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posted on
03/14/2008 5:24:07 AM PDT
by
DB
To: iowamark
Professor Heller said he believed, for example, that the religious objection to teaching evolution is one of the greatest misunderstandings because it introduces a contradiction or opposition between God and chance. One really needn't work too hard to find clues as to why NYT finds it useful to run such a story.
Separately, let's distinguish, please, between "the theory of evolution" as a cause for the existence of life or species, and "evolution," which is synomymous with "adaptation," as a natural occurance manifested in existing life and species.
Yeah, do you think we're smart enough to make that distinction, academia? Do you, NYT? If I can do it, you can do it. If you want to.
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posted on
03/14/2008 5:26:14 AM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
(A moderate Muslim is one who acts like a Christian,.)
To: the invisib1e hand
Oh yeah I meant to ad, "there is no contradiction between God and chance." It's another of his tools.
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posted on
03/14/2008 5:27:23 AM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
(A moderate Muslim is one who acts like a Christian,.)
To: the invisib1e hand
Yeah, do you think we're smart enough to make that distinction, academia? Do you, NYT? If I can do it, you can do it. If you want to. Yes, but most evolutionists are NOT smart enough to made that distinction - or at least they pretend not to be.
To: iowamark
LOL, I thought it was Priest-cosmetologist and I was picturing this priest cutting hair and doing nails and my gaydar went crazy. LOL
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posted on
03/14/2008 5:33:11 AM PDT
by
Mercat
(The LORD is my Banner)
To: the invisib1e hand
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posted on
03/14/2008 5:34:23 AM PDT
by
iowamark
To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; marron; curiosity
Interesting God/science article ping...
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posted on
03/14/2008 8:34:50 AM PDT
by
TXnMA
(Don't vote for McCain. Vote AGAINST the Democrats!!!)
To: iowamark
Good for him. The problem with the epoche has still not been worked out and more should give it a try.
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posted on
03/14/2008 8:37:48 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
To: TXnMA
To: TXnMA; IowaHawk; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; marron; metmom
Much of Professor Hellers career has been dedicated to reconciling the known scientific world with the unknowable dimensions of God.... In doing so, he has argued against a God of the gaps strategy for relating science and religion, a view that uses God to explain what science cannot.... Professor Heller said he believed, for example, that the religious objection to teaching evolution is one of the greatest misunderstandings because it introduces a contradiction or opposition between God and chance. It seems to me that the entire universe exists in a tension between that which does not change (God's Will and Word) and that which does (i.e., "chance"). Ultimately, God is not "of the gaps"; He is the foundation of everything that exists, the ultimate source of the order of the changeable things....
I'm thrilled that Professor Heller has been honored with the Templeton Prize.
Thanks so much for the ping to this excellent article TXnMA, and to Iowahawk for posting it!
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posted on
03/14/2008 9:14:21 AM PDT
by
betty boop
(This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
To: betty boop
It seems to me that the entire universe exists in a tension between that which does not change (God's Will and Word) and that which does (i.e., "chance"). Ultimately, God is not "of the gaps"; He is the foundation of everything that exists, the ultimate source of the order of the changeable things...
Indeed. Thank you for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!
To: the invisib1e hand
Oh yeah I meant to ad, "there is no contradiction between God and chance." It's another of his tools. Professor Heller agrees with you. It's made very clear in the article. Why the hostility?
To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
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. . . most evolutionists are NOT smart enough to made that distinction - or at least they pretend not to be."
'pretend' is the operative word, I think.
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posted on
03/14/2008 10:34:16 AM PDT
by
YHAOS
To: betty boop
In doing so, he has argued against a God of the gaps strategy for relating science and religion, a view that uses God to explain what science cannot.... God explains everything.
Science being able to offer its own non-God explanations for things doesn't mean that they are correct explanations, nor that we don't need God any more, nor that He isn't what's behind everything any way.
Following that line of reasoning, when we are finally able to explain everything, then God will not be relevant because He's not needed anymore to explain what we don't understand.
God is far more than a handy catch-all excuse to explain what we don't understand. People who think that have a very warped and incomplete view of who God is and what He's about.
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03/14/2008 11:29:40 AM PDT
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metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Quix; Forest Keeper
[ a tension between that which does not change (God’s Will and Word) and that which does (i.e., “chance”). Ultimately, God is not “of the gaps”; ]
Things that are thingly and things that are not thingly dancing with each other. Amazing how magnetism, heat, and light and even conductance morph into electricity and electricity morphs into them.. I suspect these other scientific variations of “dance” have been considered also..
Charleston, bob*, boogie, boogie down*, bunny hop, caper, careen, cavort, conga, flit*, foot it*, foxtrot, frolic, gambol, get down*, hoof it*, hop, hustle, jig, jitter*, jitterbug, jive*, jump, leap, one-step, prance, promenade, rhumba, rock, sambo, shimmy, skip, spin, step, strut, sway, swing, tango, tap, tread, trip, truck, twist, two-step, waltz, whirl
Amazing what “matter”(whatever that is) can do ain’t it..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html
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posted on
03/14/2008 11:35:47 AM PDT
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hosepipe
(CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
To: hosepipe
Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!
To: TXnMA
Thanks for the ping! This is fascinating stuff!
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posted on
03/14/2008 12:45:09 PM PDT
by
narses
(...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
To: iowamark
As a rule, the Templeton Prize winners are indeed deserving of the award, unlike the Nobel or the Pulitzer Prize winners, which have grown more and more politicized and perverse over the years.
The New York Times article doesn’t give a very clear explanation of his work, but that’s not really surprising. This is an area that the Times will never really understand.
Maybe we’ll read more about it in a future issue of First Things.
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posted on
03/14/2008 1:24:54 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
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