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States May Warn Doctors to Follow Smoker Treatment Guidelines or be Sued for Medical Malpractice
NewsRx ^ | 03/11/2008 | PROFESSOR JOHN F. BANZHAF III

Posted on 03/12/2008 10:34:40 AM PDT by Harrius Magnus

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To: Gabz
But guess what? My civic duty will always take a back seat when it comes to our daughter.

As it should!

In the case of volunteer work, as much as it is a good thing to give to the community, it doesn't hurt to let them do without you once in awhile. You can call it "increase their appreciation (of me) day"

I think it is really nice for you to take the time to work on community efforts, I can not say I have done such a thing for several years now.

The last time I volunteered, it was at a church food bank handing out groceries to those less fortunate - I did so for the one year I committed to. I was appalled at the superior attitudes the unfortunate ones took to those who served them. It sort of left a bad taste in my mouth, so I have not made such a commitment again - I commend you for doing so.

101 posted on 03/13/2008 2:13:31 PM PDT by Shortcake
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To: Gabz
As to when I was in hospital, not a single doctor prescribed any NRT

WOW! That's against the Nurse Practice Act in NY for a nurse to prescribe any medication. It's called practicing medicine. Even nurse practitioners in NYS have to be under a doctor to prescribe.

Maybe in your state it became a mandate to have it ordered on smokers. That would be surprising since there are contraindications to it. Perhaps an intern, physicians assistant or nurse practitioner ordered it if it was a teaching hospital. I have a feeling someone wasn't honest with who ordered it.

Vaccinations for the Flu and Pneumococcal Pneumonia are offered without the doctor writing the order. I believe it's another government guideline thing. The government figured that since your already at a health-care provider, it's a good time to vaccinate if you want it.

The doctor has a chance to say they don't want their patient to have a vaccine. The neurosurgeons generally don't want their patients vaccinated post-op. If you get a mild fever it could complicate assessing your recovery.

102 posted on 03/13/2008 2:15:57 PM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: Harrius Magnus; Eric Blair 2084

You know, we should just shoot smokers or offer them hemlock.

Of course, that takes away the tax stream.

Let’s confiscate their money as a preemptive move and then offer them hemlock.


103 posted on 03/13/2008 2:20:23 PM PDT by swarthyguy (Osama Freedom Day: 2500 or so since September 11 2001!)
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To: Gabz
As to the night nurse, she might be a new graduate and very gun-ho. I'm sorry you had such a bad experience.

I am very frustrated when a patient will not take very necessary medication (for their high blood pressure, etc.) We try to work it out with the doctor speaking with the patient, doctor changing the order etc.

Many times we totally see the patients point. And sometimes the patient has given up.

A little side story. I had a patient who had so many things wrong with his body he was on medications for his heart, kidneys, diabetes, wounds, etc. He'd bargain with you as to what he'd take. So you'd really just like to offer the most basic. Then within the hour he'd throw-up. He'd never tell you he was nauseous so you could get him medication for that.

I wasn't surprised he died. But it bothered me he was so resistant to treatment and medication. Treatment more than medication. Another nurse said, "I love those patients. They don't want anything. They are the easiest patients."

That's not me. I go home and feel bad I couldn't help them.

104 posted on 03/13/2008 2:31:27 PM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: CSM
He admitted that his customers mostly smoked and that his business would be hurt if he voluntarily banned it. He couldn’t understand that his business would be hurt by a ban enforced by the state.

He doesn't want his business to suffer. If smokers can go to a competitor's bar...

105 posted on 03/13/2008 3:04:44 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Shortcake
I was appalled at the superior attitudes the unfortunate ones took to those who served them. It sort of left a bad taste in my mouth,.....

Yikes, I can totally understand that, I would have had the same reaction.

My situation is different than what you experienced. While those of us in the kitchen are volunteers, the people we are feeding are paying for their food. Wednesday is Bingo night and it is one of the ways the Moose Lodge raises money. The sale of food and bingo.

106 posted on 03/13/2008 4:07:29 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: AmericaUnite

You sound like a nurse that would not last long in the hospital I was in.

I’ll never set foot in that hospital again.

I understand you wishing to defend the nurses, and I would normally do so as well because I actually have more respect for nurses than I do for doctors, but I can not defend these. There was not a single one of them, including the night nurse, that had not been in the field for less than 10 years.


107 posted on 03/13/2008 4:54:04 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz
Of course, I should not have used those who serve the Moose Lodge as a reason to vent.
108 posted on 03/13/2008 6:31:56 PM PDT by Shortcake
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To: doodad
Our company is having mandatory blood tests and if nicotine is detected, you must attend smoking cessation or lose insurance. And if you don’t quit, you lose insurance."

They'd detect nicotine in my blood stream, even tho I don't smoke. I use nicotine gun, or lozengers and sometimes even the patch. And I'll do it forever if I have too.

I'm not sure what your company is doing is legal?

sw

109 posted on 03/13/2008 6:42:05 PM PDT by spectre (spectre's wife)
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To: Harrius Magnus

I suspect its a heck of a lot easier for the doc to tell the smoker to get lost than to get him to quit smoking!!!


110 posted on 03/13/2008 6:44:42 PM PDT by mo
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To: swarthyguy

Great idea.


111 posted on 03/13/2008 6:46:23 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: socialismisinsidious

So physicians have spent more time at the firing range... What’s the big deal?


112 posted on 03/13/2008 7:51:04 PM PDT by long hard slogger (If you're going through hell, keep going. - Winston Churchill)
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To: maine-iac7
I like smelling like an ashtray, It keeps the health nut fems away from me.
113 posted on 03/13/2008 8:24:44 PM PDT by MaxMax (I need a life after politics)
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To: Gabz; Conservative Vermont Vet

Doesn’t anyone remember Prohibition’s creation of incentive for smugglers and bootleggers which then led to organized crime and the drug underground of today?


114 posted on 03/14/2008 12:52:32 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Here are some big time Nico Nazis.


115 posted on 03/14/2008 1:28:46 AM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: dblshot

I’m not a conspiracy theorist by a long shot, but I’m wondering more and more if it won’t be beneficial at some time in the near(?) future to know as much as we can medically and to know how to treat ourselves medicinally with herbs, etc.

It may end up being the only route available to us unless we comply with this or that required by the government before we can get their medical treatment.


116 posted on 03/14/2008 4:48:38 AM PDT by TruthSetsUFree
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