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Boeing supporters target McCain
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| 3/8/2008
| MATTHEW DALY/ap
Posted on 03/08/2008 4:24:09 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: Boblo
Wasn’t Boeing caught several years ago greasing the way toward a contract( private meetings with a Pentagon rep) for the tankers? They paid an enormous fine. They are still being punished.
To: Paleo Conservative
What does get forgotten in all this is that if the offered lease or a renegotiated lease or purchase agreement had accepted, the USAF would already have about 100 new tankers. Maybe. But ihe Iralians and Japanese, who ordered their Boeings even earlier, still don't have them operational.
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posted on
03/08/2008 6:48:29 AM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
(Never say yer sorry, mister. It's a sign of weakness)
To: rbmillerjr
Hmm, so if Boeing moves 40% of their plant and workforce to Mexico next month...we can all be gleeful that 60% is still builit in America?
Boeing already outsources outside the country. They did it with the 787, too.
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posted on
03/08/2008 6:49:58 AM PST
by
GAB-1955
(Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
To: tobyhill
“Exactly, McCain wasnt getting the union vote anyway.”
WRONG!
This is a big Defense contractor. Most of the folks working at the plants are former Military. Lots of conservatives with no choice but to join the Unions. This is targeted at keeping them home on election day and it’s going to work.
I don’t think any Politician took a real close look at the original lease deal for the 767 tankers. They just piled on when they heard that Boeing had hired a former Government Procurement worker.
To: SUSSA
“The small businesses those union workers spend their money with are also hurt as are their employees and the people they spend money with. This will ripple through an already slowed economy.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.............
watch out common sense like that will get the McCainiaks
in a huffy mood. Some have already spun it to be a gain for American workers because a few jobs land in Their state.
Ask GM and Ford and the late American motors what those plants in the south building toyotas did to the economy of the Mid West.
I must admit I do not want a SINGLE AMERICAN JOB outsourced
period. The Destruction of our Manufacturing base has gone far enough. McCain has been a big part of shipping of our good jobs overseas..and this is being pointed out by Dems or Unions so what IT IS TRUE.
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posted on
03/08/2008 6:57:15 AM PST
by
shadowgovernment
(From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
To: tobyhill
"Having made sure that Iraq gets new schools, roads, bridges and dams that we deny America, now we are making sure that France gets the jobs that Americans used to have," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill. "We are sending the jobs overseas, all because John McCain demanded it."Yo Rahm,
The planes will be built in ALABAMA, USA. Some parts will come from overseas, as do some parts of boeings planes, but boeing screwed the pooch and is now whining.
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:00:29 AM PST
by
USS Alaska
(Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
To: tobyhill
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:00:36 AM PST
by
rbmillerjr
("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
To: BamaDi
You miss my point. It will not matter if the contract is a good deal or a bad one. It only matters how the press will spin it and how McCain counters that spin.
If the press shows closed stores and unemployed workers in 40 states that would have had work had Boeing got the contract before McCain gets out front showing the people working because of the contract etc., he takes a hit he cant afford if he really expects to win.
I havent looked at the bids and dont know if its a good thing or not. Im not commenting on that. I do know that perception is reality in politics and this could hurt McCain badly.
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:11:51 AM PST
by
SUSSA
To: rbmillerjr
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:14:27 AM PST
by
tobyhill
(The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
To: Calpernia
***Comparatively, Boeings 776 tanker is 85 percent built in the United States.”***
The way Boeing is complaining I thought they were 100% American.
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:16:20 AM PST
by
tobyhill
(The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
To: tobyhill
They don’t understand. John is good at surrendering. He wanted to practice surrendering to Europeans this time.
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:18:10 AM PST
by
farmer18th
(The 30% of Freepers who won't vote for McCain are God's People..)
To: tobyhill
You would think that the anti-war moonbat politicos in Chicago and Seattle would be celebrating. What a relief of collectve guilt that these "war and death machines" will not be built under their watch.
Elections have consequences - If you elect anti war liberals like Cantwell, Murray and Dicks, don't expect to reap the rewards of big military contracts.
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:24:14 AM PST
by
Species8472
(John Kerry was a war hero too....)
To: Species8472
So true. Give defense contracts to states that still care about our military members.
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:26:47 AM PST
by
tobyhill
(The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
To: tobyhill
“Boeing already works with China.”
They purchase parts and sub assemblied parts from China. My link was in response to your stating that fact.
EADS has strategic agreements with China and they sell military aircraft and technology to China...BIG DIFFERENCE.
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:29:15 AM PST
by
rbmillerjr
("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
To: rbmillerjr; tobyhill
I believe Airbus has a complete A320 plant in China (or is in the process of building one).
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:31:45 AM PST
by
SW6906
(6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
To: southernerwithanattitude; Lil Flower
So what I have seen people answering both ways is: where is the plane going to be built, in France or in Alabama? I thought the airframes were going to be built on existing lines in France and then flown to Alabama for completion, much like Boeing does in Seattle and Wichita.
If the airframe is being built on existing lines in France, that is where the bulk of the jobs will be and the bulk of the money will go.
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:36:59 AM PST
by
SW6906
(6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
To: rbmillerjr
Oh well. To me it’s not that big of difference since Chinese aircraft aren’t attacking us, the Chinese trade is. Boeing was going to build 85% here in America where Northrup is at 58%. Doesn’t sound all American which ever way it’s spliced.
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:40:13 AM PST
by
tobyhill
(The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
To: tobyhill
This is ridiculous. Boeing tried to bribe the Air Force to get the tanker job and two of its people did prison time for it. I am not pleased that the Eurotrash got a big piece of this, but Boeing had only itself to blame. If they had the best proposal they would have landed it. As it was, they had an inferior proposal.
To: tobyhill
what’s a few more jobs going overseas anyway?
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:57:34 AM PST
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
Political expediency at the price of national security is no virtue, My FRiend.
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posted on
03/08/2008 7:58:55 AM PST
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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