Posted on 03/06/2008 7:42:23 PM PST by blam
Many other country's had fallen in just days or weeks. Some simply surrendered. Germany did not declare war on Britain, it was the other way around after Germany attacked Poland, a British ally.
Having fought alone since 1939 throught the Blitz and the U-boat wolfpacks Britain was on it's heels when Japan attacked the Pearl Harbor in late 1941 bringing the US into the conflict and assuring eventual victory.
We should have been there sooner. War with Nazi Germany was inevitable. The British did the world a great favor by fighting Germany when no one else could, or in our case, would.
I'm sure you are aware by the wars end the Germans were producing long range missles and a four engine aircraft called the New York Bomber". We were next.
You sound like a student of WWII history so I am sure you know the left in the US did not want any US involvement in anymore European wars.
Thank God for Winston Churchill and the RAF, and Americas lend lease.
It's strange you reserve your vitriol for our allies and you haven't conveyed any ill will towards the Germans and or the Japanese who started the wars in the first place.
Do you respect any of our allies or is your hate reserved for the British?
She most likely has been keeping up and loves Obama's designs to turn America into Sweden West. Just committed leftist who wants to put another committed leftist into the White House.
What’s so difficult about the idea of victory in WW2 having been won by a genuine alliance - an alliance in which each member played its indispensible part to the limit of its resources, skill and will? Why does it have to be a question of one ally ‘saving’ another? Weren’t we all in it together, each serving our own national interests as well as our joint interests? Historians may amuse themselves with ‘what if’ games, imagining scenarios for how that war might have turned out if one or the other ally had been out of the picture. But they weren’t - they were who they war, they fought as they fought, and I (like most British people of my generation) am equally thankful for all of them, not just some of them or some more than others. This apparent compulsion to assert a spurious oneupmanship for one ally at the expense of others belittles all of them.
You’re comments are correct as far as they go, but let’s not pretend that Britain ever could have recovered continental Europe without the USA. They might have survived longer on their island outpost, although even that is doubtful when you consider all the new weaponry and technologies that were becoming available to the Nazis by 1945 onward. Britain alone in 1944-45 would have faced a renewed and far more dangerous onslaught from the Nazis if Hitler still dominated Europe then.
Of course, the USA came in for our own reasons in the wake of Pearl Harbor (and the small factor that it was Hitler who declared war on the USA), but it is not plausible to think that Britain could have freed continental Europe, or even survived indefinitely as an independent power, if the Nazis were able to station untold thousands of ME262s and V1s and V2s all over northwestern France after 1944.
I agree with your view with one caveat. The “alliance” would have won without Britain or without France but not without the US. The US and Britain are close allies, with a long history, and it’s pathetic that so many in Britain hate us now. We don’t hate Britain, we really don’t even hate the French, until they start talking. As always, the US can be your best friend or worst enemy, you choose. We have done nothing to earn this acrimony, and we find it pathetic.
I agree that Roosevelt was derelict to keep us out so long, but he was the same guy that gave us socialism. That alone was the most destructive thing ever done to the US by one person. Of course, he's a hero to the left. Go figure.
I agree completely.
I hear what you are saying Republic of Texas. We are not perfect and the Brits are far from perfect as well. I used to think Americas “greatest generation” was a thing of the past but look at our young kids in Iraq. Vounteers all and as brave and as great as any troops that ever took the field. It’s the same with the Brits.
I think in the end we share each others fate. Britain may be farther down the road with the plaugue of Islamism for example but we are headed that way as well. The answer for both nations is to remember who we are. We are the West. We kicked everybodys butt together and if need be, heroes on both sides of the Atlantic will do it again.
Regards
Totaly agree. We are 50 yrs behind Britain. Wanna know where we will be in 50 yrs? Look “over there”.
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