Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

"parents who fail to [comply with school enrollment laws] may be subject to a criminal complaint against them, found guilty of an infraction, and subject to imposition of fines or an order to complete a parent education and counseling program."

Americans fought a war for independence, now it appears we need a revolution.

1 posted on 03/06/2008 1:31:15 PM PST by fweingart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-99 last
To: fweingart

Now this is an issue that will bring conservatives to the polls in numbers. It’s time to get a ballot initiative that reverses this and a good bunch of conservatives on the rest of the ticket. From diversity, comes strength and ultimately victory. Thanks for pissing us off judge.


219 posted on 03/06/2008 10:02:55 PM PST by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fweingart
The universal declaration of human rights declares, "Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children."

Violation of that article is recognized as a crime against humanity, one the Nazis were specifically guilty of, prompting its inclusion in the declaration in 1948.

223 posted on 03/06/2008 10:25:33 PM PST by JasonC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fweingart

This is truly shocking. My kids are still too young for school, but if this stands, we may have to move out of California. Any system that thinks my kids “belong” to them instead of to themselves and to their parents is broken beyond repair.


224 posted on 03/06/2008 11:13:12 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (Anybody but Hillary, Obama AND Huckabee. Hold your nose, get your barf bag and vote McCain.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fweingart
During the early 20th century, there were proposals to require all kids to attend public schools. I believe some of them even passed.

The main proponent was the KKK.

-Eric

236 posted on 03/07/2008 4:01:35 AM PST by E Rocc (Resident smartass and Myspace Freepers group moderator.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fweingart
California exodus turns to stampede
245 posted on 03/07/2008 6:18:02 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fweingart
Guess this eventually will see SCOTUS eyes.

Conservatives better think carefully; what kind of 'Bench' these candidates would call their 'own'.

(No matter his Lib persuasions; McCain - because he not a committed ideologue - is the only reasonable answer here.)

247 posted on 03/07/2008 6:29:41 AM PST by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fweingart
A three-judge panel of the California Court of Appeal has determined parents in that state have no legal right to home school. A Christian attorney in Sacramento says unless the ruling is reversed, literally thousands of students in the Golden State will be subject to criminal sanctions.

And people wonder why I won't live in California.

248 posted on 03/07/2008 6:53:43 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fweingart

Now does it matter who appoints SCOTUS people? At least McCain will not give us the 9th Circuit or the Ca.Supreme Court morons. This is a huge blow to freedom and individual liberties and the case should go all the way to SCOTUS.


251 posted on 03/07/2008 8:30:42 AM PST by phillyfanatic ( tH)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fweingart
Only totalitarian regimes demand that children are indoctrinated by the state. If this stands, the US will be a defacto totalitarian regime. Time for a new revolution.
256 posted on 03/07/2008 10:26:13 AM PST by monday
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: ImaTexan

PING


258 posted on 03/07/2008 12:37:57 PM PST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fweingart

This ruling is asinine.

I remember also the commentary that the law was “merely” to ensure quality of education and of course (of COURSE) child safety. Amazingly, someone in THIS forum also said that. Nice try.

First of all, these are issues that the teacher’s unions gave up any right to speak about long ago. Long ago. Public education is a train wreck of bad math, bad ideology, semi-socialist indoctrination, oversexualization of youth, mockery of Founding Fathers (and mockery also seen in this court ruling), as well as a very BAD horizontal peer oriented learning that is horrid for many kids. And of course those of us who’re Christians recoil in terror from what this is REALLY about.

The is more than one way to skin a cat: Unable to push this through via the issue of “quality”—it was time to sneak in through the back door for social advocacy.

First, this is a job creations program for teachers. It is really that simple. California has taken the lead in making examples out of this kind of legislation. The next issue is one of sociolization and agenda politics from the Left.

There is more than one way to skin a cat. And in this case, since legislation to force homeschoolers to promote a particular ideology about family (say, gay and gender issues, as just one example) failed, or force what are primarily Christian parents to see things from a secular viewpoint on issues ranging from sex education to world politics and neo-Marxian economics failed, the activists needed a less direct, back door route. While not absolutely sure in this case, phony charges of child abuse against homeschoolers have been shown to be legion and unrelenting. And they are ever-so-easy to make. At other times in other states the courts USED to say things to the effect that it did not “come to their notice” that child abuse events, however unfortunate, mean that the courts should assume that the State now should have primary responsibility for child-rearing over the best intentions of parents. IE—parents are the best in the business for teaching the kids and have their best interests at heart.

The creation of these “teaching credentials” requirements, which most parent don’t have and have little time to obtain and no doubt will have to follow a politically correct format, basically shut the door (for now) on homeschooling for most parents in the State of California. Teacher certification have never been proven by any relevant objective study to make any improvement in the education of children at any level. But don’t tell that to the teachers’ unions of California or the NEA. They now have more laws to pass, more agenda to push, and more jobs to fill.

For those of you homeschoolers (many, I imagine) who’re wondering what to do, don’t have time to piddle with the blarny about “credentials”, and are tired of the Californication of laws and liberal activism peeping in on you from all social angles: Flee. Get out. This fight is over. Castro Street has won. We know this now. You’re cooked, even IF this law is temporarily successfully faught we know this is not the end in Cally.

In South Carolina the fitht was a decade to make homeschooling legal with some provisions. But it is secure here thanks to a more user friendly environment.

California now joins much of Europe in effectively saying that children are to be wards of the state. Mom and Dad’s roles are apparently that of egg and sperm donor only.


267 posted on 03/07/2008 1:27:48 PM PST by Dwarf Caiman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fweingart

This will not stand up and will be eventually overturned.

Ironically, this maybe the first step in privatizing education.

John


293 posted on 03/07/2008 4:14:20 PM PST by Diggity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fweingart

We can expect worse nationally if Hitlery is elected President.


301 posted on 03/08/2008 5:36:08 PM PST by RWB Patriot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fweingart

Translation: “Home schooled children are making us look bad. We must end them.” - AFT, NEA, CTA (biggest lobby groups in Calif., have CA Assembly in their pockets)

If the homeschooling parents have a Master’s or other higher ed degree, why should they slum for a “teaching credential”?


302 posted on 03/09/2008 6:58:12 PM PDT by 4Liberty (U.S. Income Tax laws are enforced... but Immigration laws aren’t = global tax.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-99 last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson