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Too much pleasure, too few children
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 02/22/2008 | ROD DREHER

Posted on 02/25/2008 1:13:10 PM PST by Caleb1411

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To: Tijeras_Slim

This is an amazing family, Christians, and what a family should be. They’re so well organized, they homeschool, they built their own large home together, they really love each other. Great family.


301 posted on 02/27/2008 8:18:54 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Seeing the mistakes so many of our children make, I think mothers should arrange marriages for their children with people they know are people of integrity, etc. I can dream, can’t I?


302 posted on 02/27/2008 8:21:03 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: nina0113

I tried to do that too. All three wanted tube socks but I could always tell who belonged to the ones with holes all over the bottom!


303 posted on 02/27/2008 8:23:30 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: scory

We have large families in our church. One older pair had 12, several have between 6 and 7, we have babies born every year. One of our young women had a baby about 18 months ago and is expecting again. These are great parents with sweet children (for the most part).


304 posted on 02/27/2008 8:25:25 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I hate that. I have a grandson who my son adopted when he married his mother and he is just as much my grandson as my other 10 are. Another grandson is marrying a lovely young woman with a sweet little boy and he’ll be my great grandson. My grandmother played favorites with two of us (out of four children) and it ruined lives. I’ll never do that.


305 posted on 02/27/2008 8:28:11 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary

Good for them. Somebodys got to do it, but that’s not me. :)


306 posted on 02/27/2008 8:29:10 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Marie2

I have three sons but I don’t have ‘happy holidays’ with them. One is a Bahai and doesn’t really celebrate Christmas, one always goes to mother-in-law’s house (never ours), and one does invite us over for dinner which is nice. It’s like pulling hen’s teeth to get the two who live near us together for a family christmas. Ends up near February!


307 posted on 02/27/2008 8:32:19 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marie2

I have three sons but I don’t have ‘happy holidays’ with them. One is a Bahai and doesn’t really celebrate Christmas, one always goes to mother-in-law’s house (never ours), and one does invite us over for dinner which is nice. It’s like pulling hen’s teeth to get the two who live near us together for a family christmas. Ends up near February!


308 posted on 02/27/2008 8:32:23 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: caver
Ping
;-)
309 posted on 02/27/2008 8:41:27 AM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Wouldn’t be me, either. They’re well suited for their big family. I wouldn’t have been.


310 posted on 02/27/2008 9:21:06 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

We had a brief snow flurry here this morning. Bill told me volcanic ash was falling :-).


311 posted on 02/27/2008 9:27:21 AM PST by Tax-chick (If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't shoot! It might be a lemur!)
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To: Fishrrman

Very insightful comments.


312 posted on 02/27/2008 10:34:59 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves - A. Lincoln)
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To: Retired Greyhound
You balanced out the numbers for me.

My Pleasure.
You are right though, too many look at children as possessions and try to relive their glory days through them. Our goal is to raise them to be thinking, independent, hard working adults who appreciate this nation and the freedoms of a Representative Republic (so far, so good...one is mostly grown, 3 others are high teens, 3 under the age of 10)
313 posted on 02/27/2008 10:52:00 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

The people I know regard marriage as a sacrament. Divorce is not unknown but it is not entered into lightly and is quite rare.

In these families there tends to be a strong Christian foundation that is taught to children literally from the cradle. Among the lessons are a strong work ethic and no tolerance for alcohol or drugs. That said there are certainly children who do not take these things to heart and rebel or disappoint. But in the main the children I know are good citizens who revere God, value work and seek education.

The key is faith and in parents who actually live that faith. These parents teach by example and children tend to take such teaching to heart.


314 posted on 02/27/2008 11:12:42 AM PST by scory
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You are right. Faith is the key. It is amazing how much difference a genuine faith in God and parents who really live their faith can make in the quality of a marriage and in the lives of children.


315 posted on 02/27/2008 11:17:14 AM PST by scory
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
How have they overcome the following two main problems (as I see it) to getting married and having families:

1. Easy divorce where the husband is automatically assumed to be at fault and is severely economically punished by the legal system at the whim of the woman.

and

2. Kids who turn out to be bums (too lazy to work around the house or get a job, too irresponsible to hold a job, drink alcohol, smoke dope, get pregnant out of wedlock to guys who can't support them, etc. etc.).

Yes, you have hit the nail on the head. The only way to overcome these problems is to live outside of mainstream US society. There is absolutely no way you can have your wife watching Oprah and your kids watching MTV and think that you will have a happy outcome from your efforts at building a family. There are those who criticize "isolation," but in today's society, it's the only possible answer.

316 posted on 02/29/2008 10:52:12 AM PST by Maximilian
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To: Tax-chick; Mrs. Don-o; MinorityRepublican; scory; Maximilian

Tax-chick; Mrs. Don-o; MinorityRepublican; scory; Maximilian

Thanks for your rersponses.

It does figure that to be sucessful at a long term marriage and raising kids you would have to pretty much be immune to being influenced by what passes for the “common wisdom” of mainstream society. And the less exposure to the mainstream media / entertainment these days the better.


317 posted on 02/29/2008 8:39:48 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: Tax-chick; Mrs. Don-o; MinorityRepublican; scory; Maximilian

Tax-chick; Mrs. Don-o; MinorityRepublican; scory; Maximilian

Thanks for your rersponses.

It does figure that to be sucessful at a long term marriage and raising kids you would have to pretty much be immune to being influenced by what passes for the “common wisdom” of mainstream society. And the less exposure to the mainstream media / entertainment these days the better.


318 posted on 02/29/2008 8:39:53 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

Well, I think I just have got these double posts figured out.

You hit the Post button and nothing appears to happen. So you hit it again. Then something happens and it’s two posts...


319 posted on 02/29/2008 8:42:30 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

Well, I think I just have got these double posts figured out.

You hit the Post button and nothing appears to happen. So you hit it again. Then something happens and it’s two posts...


320 posted on 02/29/2008 8:42:35 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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