The Truth About Islam in Europe

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3017#comment-23832 ^ | Fjordman

[ricks_place]

Akmed, again you err. You have mistaken the Turkish Caliphate's brutal political rule for actual slavery. The muslim Arabs were not enslaved but rather continued their own practice of owning slaves. You have again mistaken European political rule for actual slavery. The muslim Arabs have only recently rejected slavery in law if not in fact. Akmed, study those dates carefully.

• 1897 Zanzibar (muslim but mostly non-arab) abolishes slavery
• 1923 Afghanistan abolishes slavery
• 1924 Iraq abolishes slavery
• 1928 Iran (muslim but non-arab) abolishes slavery
• 1936 Britain abolishes slavery in Northern Nigeria (muslim but non-arab)
• 1942 Ethiopia (muslim but non-arab) abolishes slavery
• 1952 Qatar abolishes slavery
• 1962 Saudi Arabia abolishes slavery
• 1962 Yemen abolishes slavery
• 1963 United Arab Emirates abolishes slavery
• 1970 Oman abolishes slavery

The muslim arab world is hopeless. Women are chatel, brutal repression rampant, failures are always blamed on others (mostly Jews), freedom of thought is haraam. South Korea forged a free modern economy from subjegation, brutal war, and backwardness in 40-50 years. Japan created a superb nation from atomic cinders in less time. The GDP in all Arab countries combined stood at US$531.2 billion in 1999 – less than that of a single European country, Spain (US$595.5 billion)! Arab GDP would be massively smaller if not for oil exports. Importantly, muslims murdered when the Pope spoke about muslim violence; muslims murdered when van Gogh wrote about muslim violence; muslims even murdered over Mickey Mouse cartoons! The muslim arab rennaisance never began; the evil societal suicide of Mohammed only continued.

[muawiyah]

Alas for you the microtopic at hand wasn't whether or not the Arabs were into slavery ~ if you check your records closely you will find that the English were into slavery as well.

No, the point I was responding to is whether or not the Arabs are primitive people today because of their experiences in the 7th, 8th, and 9th century ~ I made a correction to your position to the effect that circa 1000 AD or thereabouts, with the arrival of the Seljuk Turks, the jig was up for the Arabs, and whether or not they were civilized, or upheld the high standards of their predecessors, the Turks succeeded in locking the Arabs into a sort of cultural and legal stasis, and that was compounded by the Mongols who then destroyed their cultural and economic center in Mesopotamia, to wit, Baghdad!

The Arabs then entered into the late middle ages as a people bereft of civilization, honor, technology, morality and any other positive value you can name.

The development of the Ottoman Turkish system of governance did little to improve Arab conditions and just kind of left them to languish in their own waste until WWI came along, the Allies freed the Arabs, and oil was discovered.

We should not be surprised that they are crude.

[ricks_place]

The source of Arab misery is not history but the Koran. Alas, I was microtopic compeled to correct your historical slavish error. Slavery was ruled illegal in England in 1772 and abolished throughout the British Empire in 1833. Many arab countries abolished legal slavery in the modern era, 1950-1970! Arab countries abolishing slavery during my lifetime versus English courts ruling slavery illegal in 1772, a very weak comparison. While slavery is technically illegal in the Arab world, it remains a practice in many countries.

[muawiyah]

The slavery comparison was for pre-1800 ~ Brits and Arabs are not different in that period, just more red-heads among the Brits.