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The Truth About Islam in Europe
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3017#comment-23832 ^ | Fjordman

Posted on 02/24/2008 5:51:09 PM PST by ventanax5

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1 posted on 02/24/2008 5:51:10 PM PST by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5
Let's see, Brussels, Belgium...would that be this islam?
2 posted on 02/24/2008 5:54:11 PM PST by Sender (Sometimes I sits and votes, and sometimes I just sits.)
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To: ventanax5
The Truth About Islam in Europe....

...is that Islam has won.

3 posted on 02/24/2008 6:03:10 PM PST by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Sender
Islam was more advanced than most of Europe because it had pillaged the Greek Christian lands of the Mediterranean. It was as much a cesspool then as now.
4 posted on 02/24/2008 6:04:07 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: Atlantic Bridge

Time for a Freeper in Eurpoe give some perspective on this.


5 posted on 02/24/2008 6:04:27 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Sender

Since the police have given up policing and the government has given up governing in Belgium - is Belgium an autonomous state like Kosovo?


6 posted on 02/24/2008 6:06:48 PM PST by x_plus_one (Trust in God but keep your powder dry... --Oliver Cromwell)
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To: ventanax5
Thanks for the post. This article is interesting. I passed it along to my “Political Science major” daughter.
7 posted on 02/24/2008 6:12:29 PM PST by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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To: ventanax5
Extremely interesting. Thanks, ventanax.

Bump.

8 posted on 02/24/2008 6:12:49 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: ventanax5

Thanks for posting Fjordman’s article. Outstanding!


9 posted on 02/24/2008 6:40:44 PM PST by PGalt
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I love how conservatives foolishly support Orientalists like the Lewis’s because the far left, Saidists, and Islamists attack them.


10 posted on 02/24/2008 6:44:28 PM PST by rmlew (Grievance politics is a mental illness)
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bump for later reading


11 posted on 02/24/2008 6:47:10 PM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: x_plus_one

Yes, Belgium is now an autonomous state like Kosovo, except that it gets to be the head of the EU now and then.


12 posted on 02/24/2008 7:46:16 PM PST by Sender (Sometimes I sits and votes, and sometimes I just sits.)
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To: Old Sarge

Islam has not won ... late in the day Europe will awake and resume its 2000 legacy of blood-letting.


13 posted on 02/24/2008 8:44:39 PM PST by dodger
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To: ventanax5

Thanks! I always enjoy reading the Brussels Journal.


14 posted on 02/24/2008 9:51:33 PM PST by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: ricks_place
You don't know your history at all. The Persians, for example, maintained a technology that was the equal of Rome (both East and West) right up to the time the Arabs had thoroughly digested Damascus and decided that they needed an Islamic greater Syria.

The Arbs beat the Persians ~ most through the hiring of Eastern Empire legions, but it was Arab money, Arab military strategy, and Arab leadership.

What you are forgetting is that a little event called The Dark Ages had begun circa 541 AD and destroyed the economy of most of Rome, as well as that of China, and a variety of other places. Western and Northern Europe were the most devastated. They were essentially abandoned for the next 500 years.

The Arabs pulled out of the Dark Ages in about 80 years, just like some of Byzantium. The Persians took a hit too, but they didn't have invading Slavs ~ just far less numerous Central Asians.

China, in contrast took 300 years to recover to the cultural and economic level it'd had in 540AD.

Western Europe took about 1000 years.

So, why did the Arabs in Mecca do in 80 years what took the folks in Western Europe 12 times as long?

15 posted on 02/25/2008 10:12:39 AM PST by muawiyah
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Belgium has always had a well-deserved reputation for bad public records, bad public hygiene, and general sloppiness.


16 posted on 02/25/2008 10:13:48 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ventanax5

Great post!

Fills in what most of us took for granted with facts.


17 posted on 02/25/2008 11:00:00 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: muawiyah
You don't know your history at all. Au contraire, Akmed!

It was muslim murder, rape, enslavement, and pillage that brought the so called muslim golden age. A golden era made possible by the capture of Christian lands and Greek knowledge. Byzantium became the new Rome by the design of emperor Constantine as the Roman world became vulnerable through its own rot. Western and Northern Europe were always backwaters in the Roman world; the important areas were North Africa and Asia Minor. Western and Northern Europe were not so much devastated as they were never important. Many years passed as Western Civilization developed. Persia with its wealth and knowledge was captured only after ruious wars with Byzantium made both vulnerable to attack. However, the Dark Ages, a time of societal consolidation, did pass.

Unfortunately, muslims continue to live in the Dark Ages, worshiping evil including rocks in mecca and a primitive society espousing a death cult complete with slavery and misogeny. Muslim arab lands have the least productive people on earth. The low productive may only be genetic, a result of serious inbreed and goat heading. So, why won't the Arabs in Mecca leave the Dark Ages?

18 posted on 02/25/2008 2:21:05 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place

Yes, rapine and pillage ~ those were staple ingredients back then.


19 posted on 02/25/2008 4:51:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ricks_place
You are attributing their present problems to the wrong period. It was shortly after the Mongol invasions that the Arab empires collapsed and disappeared for ever after.

After that it was just one Turk after another until WWI. The Arabs obtained substantial liberty from the Allies who won that war.

They are, as it were, into their first 100 years of recovery after a nearly 1000 year long enslavement by a foreign power.

I supposed they might be excused for some degree of their screwups ~

20 posted on 02/25/2008 4:54:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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