Here:
Late Pleostocene Human Population Bottlenecks. . . (Toba)
Posted on 02/21/2008 1:50:58 PM PST by blam
Oh, like THAT would be the straw that broke the camels back. They need to get real. There is no evidence that anything in the Book of Mormon is anything more than (to quote Mark Twain)...
“...merely a prosy detail of imaginary history, with the Old Testament for a model; followed by a tedious plagiarism of the New Testament.” Mark Twain
No linguistic data, no archaeological data, no cultural data, no historic data, no genetic data. It is a perfect record of absolute non-conformance to reality.
Luckily Mormons are good people and good Conservatives and don’t dwell much on their silly theology; they are too busy being Mormons.
The Neandertal EnigmaFrayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
by James Shreeve
Gene Studies Confirm “Out Of Africa” Theories
Yahoo News | 2-20-2008 | Maggie Fox
Posted on 02/20/2008 5:42:03 PM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1973590/posts
Ancient skull dug up in Henan may bury ‘Out of Africa’ theory
South China Morning Post (Hong Kong) | Jan 24, 2008
Posted on 01/24/2008 12:39:26 PM EST by charles m
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1958908/posts
Did a Tsunami Wipe Out a Cradle of Western Civilization?
Discover Magazine | 01.04.2008 | Evan Hadingham
Posted on 01/15/2008 11:53:15 AM EST by forkinsocket
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1954101/posts
Evolution Tied To Earth Movement [Carole King alert]
Eureka Alert | 12-19-2007 | M Royhan Gani
Posted on 12/20/2007 11:02:48 PM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1942624/posts
Man descended from early aardvark
UK Times online | January 21, 2003 | Mark Henderson, Science Correspondent
Posted on 01/21/2003 3:23:43 PM EST by CobaltBlue
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/826768/posts
And chased by sabertooth tigers.
Right Whale states a true but horrifying proposition for academia- the reluctant admission that there may actually have been an earth shattering global cataclysm recently, most likely during a period that is referred to by archaeologists as “the bronze age discontinuity”. The catastrophist approach to archaeology and anthropology has been actively suppressed and vilified in academia in spite of growing evidence that the archaeological and geological data and comparative analysis of mythologies of ancient and contemporary peoples make the catastrophist interpretation of history the only rational and compelling one. Academia can accurately be categorized as a cesspool of ideology and grant funding turf protection.
The Mount Toba eruption was thought to be a partial cause of the human genetic bottleneck, potentially reducing the human population to 2-10K individuals. And the human population that had migrated up to nearly Turkey went extinct, though those that made it to India/Australian coasts probably survived.
Hear! Hear! Never a truer word spoken.
Okay, but to mire this thread in ‘offal’, should we ping the Mormon brigade at BYU using surrogates at FR to refute something claimed by Joe Smith, now?
I have long held that if your parents never had children you probably won't either.
“100,000 years ago at least”
Historical ‘Science’, not Observational Science
It is both observational and historical. The observation of diversity within Africa and less diversity spreading out from there, as well as an observation of the cumulative difference and a measurement of the rate of differentiation leads one to ‘out of Africa’ hypothesis and the 100,000 year estimation.
According to the Toba link, after the catastrophe, humans would have migrated out of Africa to repopulate the earth, so no death of all Africans there.
Since the Toba event 74kya and a probable North American boloid event about 13,000 years ago, decimated human and other populations and caused significant downturns in worldwide temperature, does anyone have a catastrophic event for the triggering of the last ice age about 125,000 years ago?
The 'Hobbits' survived the Toba event on near-by Flores Island. Interestingly they disappeared about the time of the comet impact 12-13,000 years ago.
That makes me wonder if there were other pockets of humanity around the world that survived Toba only to succumb to another later event.
I'm thinking specifically about these folks: Vintage Skulls
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization
by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith
IMO, ice ages are caused by large impact.”
I tend to agree, but I would also include monster volcanic events like Yellowstone, Long Valley, etc. I still want to know what big thing happened 125,000 years ago.
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