FALCON PARTY - Philosophy and Platform

Falconparty.com ^ | 2/19/08 | Staff

[wizr]

’ We have been assured, Sir, in the sacred writings, that “except the Lord build the House they labour in vain that build it.” I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better, than the Builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our little partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and bye word down to future ages. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing Governments by Human wisdom and leave it to chance, war and conquest.” - Ben Franklin.

Amen

I would like more info as available. Note tagline.

[Leifur]

But during that time they would be splitting the vote of people on their side, who have to decide between two parties, instead of trying to influence the policies of the big party towards their own. And thus until they can completely replace one of the big parties, they will have to endure a long total control of the other big party that is far further from their views. About overtaking, would it not be more effective to overtake the Big party from within?

Have you heard about the testimonial parties in the Netherlands? Small, christian fundamentalist parties that refuse to compromise. They compete with the big tent christian democratic party and take away the more conservative elements out of that party. I wonder if that is not one of the reason a historically conservative country like The Netherlands have been one of the most liberal test case (and an utter failure of a test like all liberal experiments) of the liberal movement in the whole world.

I surely don´t understand the purpose of third parties in a first past the post system. I know the labor party overtake the liberal democrats in the UK, and the liberals still live, but that is more for historical reasons I would beliewe, and it took a major event for the Labors to overtake the Liberals, that is World War 2.

[TruthConquers]

It might have been a raven, it was from the old raiding days, and the raven makes sense being a bird associated with Odin.

My mom was raised basically Icelandic, but in Canada, in and around Winnipeg. There was an Icelandic settlement that started there in the late 1860’s. My mom’s side is of all Icelandic decent coming from west Iceland from what I can tell of the genealogies. My mom did not marry an Icelander, and neither did any of her siblings. They all seemed to marry Scots, though. So I am only on half Icelandic, on my moms side.

As to language, no I do not speak Icelandic. My mom tells the story of her older brother going to school and not speaking English. That was when her parents only spoke English in the home from then on. In fact, she told me and my brothers that her parents would speak in Icelandic around Christmas time about presents and the kids would not know what they were saying. I know a few words, glisster(sister), ponnukokur, vinarterta, skyr, and lifrarpylsa(the last two I make occasionally). And of course, Amma.

Culturally, not a lot. I do know that when my uncle wanted to retire, his business went entirely to his oldest son and that is a very Icelandic tradition that I am aware of. I know of Huddlefolk, and have been to the Islendingadagur in Gimli on Lake Winnipeg twice.

It is not much, but I have always been aware of my heritage and have sought to learn what I could.

[Kevmo]

Good catch, thanks.

[upsdriver]

Thanks for the ping! Will need some time to digest the site. If there is going to be a seperate FALCON ping list, please add me to it. Looks great so far!

[rockinqsranch]

OK Pissant, I have two postings copied now to peruse. Did I miss anything?

FWIW I don’t like the name of the Party, but that’s JMO.

[dfwddr]

Thanks for the ping pissant. Let me know if I can give you a hand.

[dfwddr]

SURFRINAGWIASS

LOL LOVE it !!!!!

[abseaman]

Iceland is not a fridged place. There is lots of green veg. and the people get more rain in the winter then snow. The snow is measured in feet in the mountains. A great place to camp if your into primitive. And expensive.

just my thoughts

[Kevmo]

glad you like my tagline acronym

[upchuck]

I had my say. Now I’m done on this subject.

[joseph20]

Blue Falcon

[LachlanMinnesota]

Starting a new party and creating a platform is a lot like hearding cats with a stick...not so easy to do.

[LachlanMinnesota]

I hear the Bull Moose party is not being used...

How about the Hunting Party? Then Hillary can join.

[Wuli]

there are some verities of life and history that are always true

the choice of a name suggests the seriousness of thought by which the choice was made

the seriousness of that choice suggests the degree of intellectual rigor of those who made the choice

the “falcon party” suggests neither, regardless of honest and good intentions

[dixiechick2000]

Thank you, pissant!

I’m going to enjoy watching the site evolve.
Those of us who will be in the wilderness need something!

[WildcatClan]

Those are some cool symbols. :) I mean an elephant and a donkey, what were the 2 US parties thinking?

[WildcatClan]

Eagle party was already taken.

[pissant]

It suggests whatever you choose to think it suggests. It was very purposely chosen. We see how the grand ideas of the Libertarians, Constitution/Taxpayer Party, the Greens, the Natural Law, The Patriot Party and the Greens have panned out. ROFL

Unserious parties run by charlatans. You just cling to the Grand Old Party and see where it goes.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

I mean an elephant and a donkey, what were the 2 US parties thinking?

From Donkey and Elephant: The History of these Symbols in Politics.

When Andrew Jackson ran for president in 1828, his opponents tried to label him a "jackass" for his populist views and his slogan, "Let the people rule." Jackson turned it to his advantage by using the donkey on his campaign posters. During his presidency, the donkey was used to represent Jackson's stubbornness when he vetoed re-chartering the National Bank.

In 1837, the donkey was used in a political cartoon for the first time to represent the Democratic party, again in conjunction with Jackson. Jackson was retired, but still considered himself the party's leader. Kind of like President Clinton was doing after he was no longer President. The cartoon, titled "A Modern Baalim and his Ass," showed Jackson trying to get the donkey to go where he wanted it to go.

Interestingly enough, the person credited with getting the donkey widely accepted as the Democratic party's symbol was Political Cartoonist, Thomas Nast. He first used the donkey in an 1870 Harper's Weekly cartoon shown above, to represent the "Copperhead Press" kicking a dead lion, symbolizing Lincoln's Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton, who had recently died. Nast intended the donkey to represent an anti-war faction with whom he disagreed, but the symbol caught the public's fancy and the cartoonist continued using it to indicate some Democratic editors and newspapers.

James Gordon Bennett's New York Herald raised the cry of "Caesarism" in connection with the possibility of a third term try for President Ulysses S. Grant.While the illustrated journals were depicting Grant wearing a crown, the Herald involved itself in another circulation-builder in an entirely different, nonpolitical area. This was the Central Park Menagerie Scare of 1874, a delightful hoax perpetrated by the Herald. They ran a story, totally untrue, (like Dan Rather would do), that the animals in the zoo had broken loose and were roaming the wilds of New York's Central Park in search of prey. Cartoonist Thomas Nast took the two examples of the Herald enterprise and put them together in a cartoon for Harper's Weekly. He showed an ass (symbolizing the Herald) wearing a lion's skin (the scary prospect of Caesarism) frightening away the animals in the forest (Central Park). The caption quoted a familiar fable: "An ass having put on a lion's skin roamed about in the forest and amused himself by frightening all the foolish animals he met within his wanderings." It showed the alleged Democratic uneasiness over a possible third term for Ulysses S. Grant. In conjunction with this issue, Nast helped associate the elephant with the Republican party. Although the elephant had been connected with the Republican party in cartoons that appeared in 1860 and 1872, it was Nast's cartoon in 1874 published by Harper's Weekly that made the animal stick as the Republican's symbol. A cartoon titled "The Third Term Panic," shown above and right, (click here for a larger view) showed animals representing various issues running away from a donkey wearing a lion's skin tagged "Caesarism." The elephant labeled "The Republican Vote," was depicting the Republican vote as running inexorably into a tar pit of inflation and chaos.

The Democrats think of the elephant as bungling, stupid, pompous and conservative -- but the Republicans think it is dignified, strong and intelligent. On the other hand, the Republicans regard the donkey as stubborn, silly and ridiculous -- but the Democrats claim it is humble, homely, smart, courageous and loveable.