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McCain? No Way!
Gun Owners of America ^ | Feb 15, 2008 | Sen. HL "Bill" Richardson (ret.)

Posted on 02/17/2008 10:20:04 AM PST by calcowgirl

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To: JasonC

“... Actual Rs actually vote R in November.”

Are we not men? No! We are RINOs

RINO OH-NO (’JOCKO HOMO’ by Devo)

They sell us crap, when all else fails
Throwing up them liberal tales
Why not play ball? Let ‘R’ prevail
R-bot win? We’re not RINO!

Their spin-heads howl: “We’ve lost control”
We’re “pinheads all” says John no-show
No, we’re not them ... They’re R-I-N-O

Money men all ... in business suit
Leaches and cynics ... all advance the boot
R-bot wins! We go RINO!
And we’re not them! R-I-N-O

GOP made McCain ... Got our money to do it
Apes the CPAC plan ... We’re all to cheer n’ approve it
He can walk like an ‘R’ ... Talk like an ‘R’
He can do what a RINO man do
GOP made McCain ... But our money supplied the glue
We must believe ... O.k. let’s vote!


561 posted on 02/17/2008 8:00:40 PM PST by RTO (Salve Regina, ora pro nobis!)
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To: JasonC

“You don’t speak for us, we don’t take your orders. Deal already.”

Right. We sure don’t speak for you. I for one could care less whose orders you take, although it’s damn certain if the GOP elites say jump, you scream “How high?”

And WE WILL “deal” with “it” on election day. Get ready for a really rude awakening, chief.


562 posted on 02/17/2008 8:14:09 PM PST by RTO (Salve Regina, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Mojave

***”We at Gun Owners intend to be very engaged in Congressional and US Senate races.”***

Pun... ?


563 posted on 02/17/2008 8:18:25 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: All

With Sen. John McCain’s unanticipated and rapid ascent to “presumptive GOP Presidential Nominee,” the liberal (left) wing of the Republican Party is positioned to seize control of the party and its conservative soul. This cannot be allowed.

McCain has a critical weakness ... an Achilles’ heel. To beat the democrats, McCain must have the votes of the party’s conservative base. Without the support of dedicated conservatives, leftist McCain cannot succeed.

When the Republican establishment is confronted with the cold fact that if the party nominates McCain, all efforts to win the presidency will be in vain. It will be forced to “broker” the leftist McCain into oblivion where he rightfully belongs.


564 posted on 02/17/2008 8:18:36 PM PST by AllseeingEye33 ("It is what it is")
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To: Huck

“But on the other hand, I also suspect many of you are people who rarely cast votes for viable candidates anyway. The Alan Keys/Constitution Party/Libertarian crowd, satisfied to cast a 1%er vote and leave the actual choosing of a leader to everyone else.”

Yes, It’s always best to close your eyes and follow the lemmings over the cliff. No wonder the GOP is in such sorry shape.

I voted for Reagan twice without reservation.
I voted for Bush senior, with some reservation.
I voted both times, but with much reservation, for Bush Jr.

Guess that torpedoes your assumptions, eh?

Now I have finally reached my limit with John McCain. You are willing to “settle” for whatever the GOP may scrape from the bottom of the barrel. Good for you.

I principles... you have standards. The difference is that standards can always be lowered.


565 posted on 02/17/2008 8:24:04 PM PST by RTO (Salve Regina, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Eagle Eye
Some of us don’t swallow just any candidate that the GOP selects for us.

No. You'll swallow Barack Hussein Obama instead.

566 posted on 02/17/2008 8:30:57 PM PST by Huck (Support OBAMA in 08--He's a better choice than McCain! Ask any conservative!)
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To: Mojave
McCain can't be held responsible if he loses. Liberals are never to blame for their own failures.

This same thing occurred to me as well. WHEN McCain loses in November, it will be those of us refusing to compromise our conservative principles and vote for him who will be blamed, by other republicans, for his defeat.

567 posted on 02/17/2008 8:37:43 PM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: calcowgirl; davidtalker; ElkGroveDan; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; dalereed; NormsRevenge; ..
Even David Gold today on KSFO was saying that not voting for McCain was juvenile and stupid because at least with him we would have a seat at the table. I wanted to SCREAM at my radio (which really would have been juvenile and stupid) that we've NEVER had a place at our Governator's table about any danged thing!!!

McColaborator and Schwartzenswindler are nearly identical twins, politically speaking! McCompromiser will probably lose like Dole anyhow, so why even bother? McCapitulator can harm conservatism and core Republicanism just exactly the way Schwartzensocialista has butchered the CA GOP's platform and Party "leadership!"

Here we have a perfect object lesson in CA that eveyone could learn from, but yet they bounce in here telling us that Schwartzensellout is STILL better than Grayout Davis!!! Unfreakinbelieveable!!!

568 posted on 02/17/2008 9:13:38 PM PST by SierraWasp (McCain's NOT a RINO! He's a CONTRA CONSERVATIVE!!! (he's also contra-constitutional like Schwartzen-)
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To: SierraWasp

Don’t forget, we have the same man backing both of these “post-partisans”—dare I use the “P” word? (Parsky)


569 posted on 02/17/2008 9:17:31 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Hat-Trick
WHEN McCain loses in November, it will be those of us refusing to compromise our conservative principles and vote for him who will be blamed, by other republicans, for his defeat.

Yep. When THEIR candidate loses the election, it will be OUR fault.

Liberal Logic 101.

570 posted on 02/17/2008 9:21:08 PM PST by Mojave
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To: AllseeingEye33

I don’t think there’s enough support to fight it at this point. It is all but a done deal. But so is the election so McCain isn’t really a concern.


571 posted on 02/17/2008 9:27:03 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: calcowgirl
(BLEEP) yes!!!

Pull all the danged covers offa that pukey punk Parsky!!!

That sleazy little Pilliated Peckerhead needs to be publicly and formally drummed out of the CA GOP and have his sword busted over the arresting officer's knee and all his buttons stripped offa his miserable jacket and shirt... even his undershorts!!!

572 posted on 02/17/2008 9:29:07 PM PST by SierraWasp (McCain's NOT a RINO! He's a CONTRA CONSERVATIVE!!! (he's also contra-constitutional like Schwartzen-)
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To: AllseeingEye33
It will be forced to “broker” the leftist McCain into oblivion where he rightfully belongs.

It won't. It's not called the Stupid Party for nothing.

573 posted on 02/17/2008 9:29:15 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave
Liberal Logic 101.

The disease is contagious and rampant.

574 posted on 02/17/2008 9:30:14 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: SierraWasp

You’re going to go easy on him huh? /s


575 posted on 02/17/2008 9:31:24 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“... I don’t recall a box that said I will only vote Republican if the perfect candidate presents himself to the party and is nominated President. ...”

RE: I am a conservative first, and a Republican second. Fact is I have registered as “Undeclared” for most of my political life, even though always voting Republican, save but once: my first vote at the age of 18 was for Carter. Coming from a family of Massachusetts Democrats that was understandable.

Although “undeclared” I actively supported GOP functions at the state level, working in grass roots organizations (CWA for example) to get conservatives on the ballot ... a difficult task in Massachusetts. I agree with the late Rep Tip O’Neill (D) that “all politics is local.”

“Even Rush Limbaugh admitted the GOP is void of conservative leadership — but even with his rants he will vote for Obama, he has stopped short of saying we should just put the whole GOP on ice until a god-like candidate appears the entire party will rally behind.”

RE: I think you might like to change that first clause: I am sure Rush did not state he would seriously vote for Obama. More likely demonstrating absurdity by being absurd, his trademark approach. And as I recall Rush has said that McCain would be a disaster for the country and the GOP.

“You who are not pleased with McCain have four years to find the perfect candidate and get him or her known and vetted and elected in four years time...”

RE: McCain will so thoroughly destroy the conservative platform of the GOP and so alienate the base that any chance of fielding and supporting conservative candidates within the official GOP structure will become a lost cause. The present circumstance validates that assertion. The present incarnation of the national GOP machine goes out of its way to banish conservatives from the party apparatus, mainly by ignoring their candidacy so they never get much exposure and wither on the vine. The GOP is so infested with moderate RINOs that it has become a joke, a national embarrassment of mediocrity and compromise.

“...maybe McCain will actually name a VP candidate you will all approve of and wish to support in four years for President...”

RE; Not likely. John McCain is a classic choleric-melancholic. His ego and pride will never allow him to select any running mate that might threaten his presence on the national stage. McCain is a one-man show... My way or the highway. No principled individual could tolerate such a personality for four years, and would likely resign.

“... you don’t want Global Warming legislation???? Well, with a democratic majority in congress, senate and Oval Office you will get that and a whole lot more.... it isn’t going to be pretty and THEY won’t care about the bottom line...”

RE: That is a rather amusing argument you make, given that the present Republican Administration and its cohorts in the Congress have attempted to force amnesty for illegal aliens on the American People three times in three months. They have, over the past eight years, grown the federal government in size and scope more than any previous administration, except possibly that of FDR. They have, as of late, been “warming up” to the purveyors of Global warming. And they have not been too concerned about the “bottom line.”


576 posted on 02/17/2008 9:32:24 PM PST by RTO (Salve Regina, ora pro nobis!)
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To: SierraWasp

Buttons on his undershorts?

Kinky! ;-)


577 posted on 02/17/2008 9:33:57 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; TigersEye

You’re thinkin of the button IN his shorts! That’s what’s kinky!!! (snort!)


578 posted on 02/17/2008 9:40:28 PM PST by SierraWasp (McCain's NOT a RINO! He's a CONTRA CONSERVATIVE!!! (he's also contra-constitutional like Schwartzen-)
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To: jbarkley
The thought of voting for McCain makes me vomit as well, but I’m willing to crawl through broken glass to keep Hillary and especially the dangerously ignorant Obama from getting into the White House.

I will too if I have to, and it certainly looks like we're going to have to. Do you think you could go before me so you can get the broken glass out of my way? I've already had knee surgery and don't want to do that again. LOL!

I find it easier to consider that I’m not voting for McCain, I’m voting AGAINST the Democrats.

That is an EXCELLENT way to look at it, because that's the ONLY way McCain will ever get my vote! I will NEVER forgive him for authoring that destructive amnesty legislation with that aorry pos, Kennedy. We know what to expect from a Hillary Presidency, but Obama would be worse, because Kennedy already has him in his pocket.

The USSC appoinments would be to the left of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and there goes our gun rights.

579 posted on 02/17/2008 9:45:34 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: cripplecreek

Hunter was as near to perfect we were going to see in this race. Despite Michael Reagan’s apparent backing of McCain, he called Hunter the best man for the job and the one man most like Ronald Reagan.

Maybe we should start a movement to “write in” Duncan Hunter. Is there a way we can start such a movement?


580 posted on 02/17/2008 9:48:57 PM PST by Travelgirl
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