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Sarkozy defends Holocaust proposal amid uproar
Reuters ^ | February 15, 2008 | Richard Balmforth

Posted on 02/15/2008 7:19:37 AM PST by beaversmom

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To: beaversmom

I think it’s a good idea too...wasn’t France the only government in Europe to openly collaborate with Hitler...the French children (including Muslim schoolchildren) should feel a sense of responsibility to carry the memory forward so that it never happens again...remember anti-Semitism is ripe in France.


41 posted on 02/16/2008 3:41:08 PM PST by foreshadowed at waco
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To: beaversmom

What? No Sarkozy rule?


42 posted on 02/16/2008 3:45:30 PM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: edcoil
Aren’t these “children” about 70-80 years old now? Based on France’s social system, the government has already adopted them.

No, the 11,000 children are those who were deported by the collaborators and subsequently murdered by the Nazis. They're all dead.

The French government has put up signs at schools throughout Paris listing the number of children at each school who were murdered. In a few schools in historically Jewish neighborhoods, hundreds of students were killed. It's chilling to read those signs and see children playing today in the playgrounds.

43 posted on 02/16/2008 4:18:20 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

the is just morbid for todays society whose children today did nothing but must pay some price.


44 posted on 02/16/2008 4:20:59 PM PST by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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To: Alter Kaker

That is just morbid for todays society the children today did nothing but must pay some price.


45 posted on 02/16/2008 4:21:12 PM PST by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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To: foreshadowed at waco
France the only government in Europe to openly collaborate with Hitler

That's ridiculous. The Vichy government collaborated, but not to the extent of Austria, Italy, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Croatia, Hungary, Ukraine, Finland, Lithuania, etc., all of which actually fought alongside the Nazis.

The French fought Hitler, were defeated, and were then ruled by a puppet collaborationist regime. That's something completely different.

46 posted on 02/16/2008 4:27:14 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: edcoil
That is just morbid for todays society the children today did nothing but must pay some price.

I don't understand. What price are you suggesting today's children have to pay? They're just being taught history.

47 posted on 02/16/2008 4:32:52 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: foreshadowed at waco
I think it’s a good idea too...wasn’t France the only government in Europe to openly collaborate with Hitler...

No, Poland was the only European government not to collaborate with Hitler. That Hitler's ambitions toward Poland were genocidal as well was a major factor, but the fact is they were the only ones without a collaborationist government.

On the other hand, France was particularly helpful. They were one of the very few (only?) to round up Jews with their own police/militia.

48 posted on 02/16/2008 4:39:28 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: Brilliant
The French get into an uproar over the dumbest things... But import millions of Muslims who end up rioting in the streets, and there is not a peep.

Wonder if anyone has asked they about this, i think they're around 10% of the population. I'm thinking they'd rather adopt an SS member.

49 posted on 02/16/2008 4:42:47 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: dervish

There’s been an article excerpted on FR regarding a similar phenom in British schools.


50 posted on 02/16/2008 6:34:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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To: JoanVarga

‘A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch’ is a wonderful primer on the wonders of the Soviet gulag system.

It’s a short book that personalizes the experience by simply describing one day, just one day, in the life of a prisoner in a Soviet gulag.


51 posted on 02/16/2008 8:59:25 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I read Anne Frank when I was a seventh grader, age 12. It was a seminal moment in my development, the beginning of adult awareness and sensitivity. Yes, let the children know.


52 posted on 02/16/2008 9:03:33 PM PST by ArmyTeach ("We have given you a Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: beaversmom
Instead of being a tool against collaborationism, this will be an assault on French Nationalism. Jew-hatred by Muslims will be ignored.
France is being destroyed by Eurabia.
53 posted on 02/17/2008 3:02:06 PM PST by rmlew (Huckabee flip flops so much it makes Romney cringe)
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To: Cincinna; beaversmom

Thanks for the ping. Thanks for posting, beaversmom. Very interesting. Hooray Sarkozy!


54 posted on 02/17/2008 6:01:32 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Alter Kaker
Correction, Finland didn't exactly "fight alongside" the Nazis. They were busy with their own defensive war against the Soviet Union.

Although they lost the Continuation War (the second phase) the USSR was happy to pull out of the Western half of the country and kept only the Eastern half. As part of the deal Finland has to expel 250,000 German troops who'd been moved into the area by Germany.

They turned around and booted the Germans out. However, not before the Germans tried to lay waste to Lappland County (where most of the winter troops came from who'd beat the USSR to a standstill, and who were beating them to a standstill as well. This has made some of my family genealogical studies very difficult, but not insurmountable.).

It's noteworthy that Finland simultaneously continued to pay its WWI debt to the USA, beat the Red Army to the ground, and smash the Nazi Army ~ and yet it took the combined forces of America, the British Empire, the French Empire, the United Kingdom and a variety of other nations, including the USSR, to beat Nazi Germany to the point where resistance was futile.

That sort of thing doesn't happen every day you know.

55 posted on 02/17/2008 8:13:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Alter Kaker
BTW, where I was stationed in Germany the little towns all had memorial boards (of varying quality) that named everyone who died during that period of war.

Ordinary Germans, Jews and Soldiers were the three categories.

Some towns have stupendously long lists of people in all three categories.

56 posted on 02/17/2008 8:16:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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