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Conservatives: Sitting Out 2008 Is the Height of Idiocy by Ben Shapiro
Family Security Matters ^ | 14 February 2008 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 02/14/2008 7:43:09 AM PST by K-oneTexas

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To: Jeff Head
There is blood on the ground in both, real blood...

The blood of our POW's in Viet Nam is real, too. And McCain betrayed them and their families.

He also betrayed the 1st Amendment, the 4th and 5th Amendments, and his oath to 'support and defend the Constitution'.

He isn't worth a warm bucket of spit much less something as precious as your vote my friend.

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241 posted on 02/14/2008 5:13:31 PM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Lurker

as precious as your vote my friend.

Listen to yourself, you even sound like the one we are talking about.

Until McCain’s brotherhood comes out against him as the Swift Boaters came out against John Kerry, I will forgive any alleged betrayal of POW’s. I was there. McCain regardless of an alleged betrayal has payed the price.

This emotional need to betray our troops on todays battlefield because you think you owe McCain and the Republican Party a slap in the face, is really a slap in the face of every one of todays fighters living and dead.

I say get over it my friend, (I can sound like him too) and join the fight to save the country, it needs you. See Uncle Sam pointing his finger at you. What is he saying, It is a long way to November, it is not fitting that anyone should, at this early hour, have their mind so made up.

To everyone entitled to your opinion, I say indeed, but time can heal wounds and your opinion is based on what the media has told you about McCain, you do not know him.

Now with that said, If he is elected, and if he betrays the conservative branch of the Party, which may be 15 to 20 percent of the voting class, then maybe we have a reason to consider our vote, as we have done with W, who in many ways was not conservative and not going in our direction, but I say, who is to say that the Presidents chosen direction is wrong. He is the President. I know, trust but verify, that was the Russians not the President.

I have to return to the scripture and remind myself continually, that with what judgment we mete, so will we be judged, so judge righteously. Consider yourself the ultimate judge and give the man a chance and in so doing you don’t place someone in the Presidency whom you know is going to betray the American Fighting man out of principle, party platform and an insane desire to please the 30 percent of voters who want us out of Iraq yesterday.

JMHO, expressed I hope, in a way not to demean, or disrespect your own. We are all in this fight together, and hopefully on the winning side of things.


242 posted on 02/15/2008 3:42:41 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
And by allowing your political disappointments to deliberately place our fighting men and women in the hands of Clinton/Obama is an insult to THEM.

And what's an insult to this nation is to vote for a man that will advance liberalism. Neither McCain nor Clinton nr Obama will receive my vote.

243 posted on 02/15/2008 3:48:48 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Jeff Head

Amen, and Amen! Americans who believe everything they have been told about McCain still do not know the man, he deserves at the very least forgiveness of any alleged previous mistakes, and the opportunity to make some more. Would we want anything less if we were in his shoes?


244 posted on 02/15/2008 3:49:34 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: NittanyLion

Liberalism is one thing, this is something else entirely.

you don’t place someone in the Presidency whom you know is going to betray the American Fighting man out of principle, party platform and an insane desire to please the 30 percent of voters who want us out of Iraq yesterday.

The above is potentially any of the democrat candidates not Senator McCain.


245 posted on 02/15/2008 3:55:22 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: libh8er
For a long time, conservatives have blindly believed that the GOP shares conservative values. The GOP does not. One only needs to look at what the GOP actually does to know that. Actions speak louder than words.

It doesn't make a dimes worth of difference which party occupies the White House.

In fact, it would be best for the country if the Rats and the Pubs took turns every four years. That way neither could do too much damage.

246 posted on 02/15/2008 4:07:57 AM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: roses of sharon
It’s called “mavericking”.

Conservatives have learned from the best!

LOL! Touche!

247 posted on 02/15/2008 4:39:08 AM PST by whd23
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To: wita

Sorry, but McCain is so bad on the other issues that I just can’t vote for him.


248 posted on 02/15/2008 4:53:10 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: ZULU
"Now we have crap and have to make the best decision."

Agreed. I could see this comming.

249 posted on 02/15/2008 5:31:11 AM PST by Designer
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
"In fact, it would be best for the country if the Rats and the Pubs took turns every four years. That way neither could do too much damage."

Please tell me that was written with tongue-in-cheek.

Believe me, we really don't want that to happen. As it is, the controlling political elite is essentially non-partisan, and they have remained in power for many years. Changing "parties" every four or eight years makes no difference to them, nor to U.S. policy, whether domestic, foreign, monetary, or what-have-you.

The only real differences between the parties are strictly superficial. Walking over the cliff, or running over the cliff, we still end up going off the cliff in the end.

250 posted on 02/15/2008 5:38:28 AM PST by Designer
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To: Designer

I believe that your point is the same as mine.


251 posted on 02/15/2008 5:44:39 AM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: wita
"..it is not fitting that anyone should, at this early hour, have their mind so made up."

Huh?

Do you think that is a reasonable position?

As for me, I have no trouble at all in knowing exactly who is my friend and who is my enemy.

It did not take any time at all for me to decide on who to support.

252 posted on 02/15/2008 5:44:42 AM PST by Designer
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To: K-oneTexas
Treachery not idiocy
253 posted on 02/15/2008 5:47:26 AM PST by John Robie
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To: wita
"..you don’t place someone in the Presidency.."

McCain is such a long shot for election that the dems will have to perform some very monumental acts of stupidity to lose this one.

They are capable of it, but I am not counting on it.

254 posted on 02/15/2008 5:47:38 AM PST by Designer
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To: Designer

McCain will win if conservatives support him. The center will not vote for Obama.


255 posted on 02/15/2008 5:49:27 AM PST by John Robie
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To: Jeff Head

You are the voice of sanity.


256 posted on 02/15/2008 5:49:49 AM PST by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
"I believe that your point is the same as mine."

I'm not sure you caught my meaning.

I meant that it makes no difference whatsoever which party is in the WH, the real power is not in any party, and it is in both parties at the same time.

We need to get over this idea of drawing distinction between two halves of the same whole.

257 posted on 02/15/2008 5:52:07 AM PST by Designer
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To: Designer

It did not take any time at all for me to decide on who to support.

Exactly my point, thanks. Make up your mind early then you don’t have to ponder the possibilities, or the potential.


258 posted on 02/15/2008 5:57:21 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
For a long time, conservatives have blindly believed that the GOP shares conservative values. The GOP does not. One only needs to look at what the GOP actually does to know that. Actions speak louder than words. It doesn't make a dimes worth of difference which party occupies the White House.

Bookmarked.

Get back to us on July 4, 2009 on that one, will you?

259 posted on 02/15/2008 5:57:56 AM PST by Jim Noble (Look out kid, they keep it all hid)
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To: Designer

McCain is such a long shot for election that the dems will have to perform some very monumental acts of stupidity to lose this one.

On this, I believe you to be right on, but as we have seen, the American people, and the dems are certainly capable of exactly those monumental acts, so never give up, and never make up your mind too early.


260 posted on 02/15/2008 6:00:24 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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