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Conservatives: Sitting Out 2008 Is the Height of Idiocy by Ben Shapiro
Family Security Matters ^ | 14 February 2008 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 02/14/2008 7:43:09 AM PST by K-oneTexas

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To: K-oneTexas
But conservatives are fools if they stay home in November.

This conservative isn't staying home, but I won't be voting for McCain unless I get a lead-pipe solid conservative influence both on the ticket and his decision-making. For one thing, I have to save my state from Senator Al Franken, and that's enough to make me crawl over broken glass to get to the polls.

201 posted on 02/14/2008 11:05:23 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Election 2008: Now the evil of two lessers.)
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To: princess leah

I don’t care who his VP is. VP is the kiss of death.


202 posted on 02/14/2008 11:09:12 AM PST by factmart
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To: NavyCanDo
I was a Fred head too, What a disappointment.
203 posted on 02/14/2008 11:11:50 AM PST by factmart
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To: NavyCanDo
I was a Fred head too, What a disappointment HE WAS I mean.
204 posted on 02/14/2008 11:12:56 AM PST by factmart
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To: ARE SOLE

Great post!


205 posted on 02/14/2008 11:18:58 AM PST by factmart
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To: cripplecreek

Great POST


206 posted on 02/14/2008 11:20:26 AM PST by factmart
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To: wita
It wasn’t so long ago that Ross Perot was able to take 20 percent or so of voters, and the painful result was eight years of WJC, surely our memories are not that short.

YES BUT WE GOT CONTROLL OF BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS.

Clinton didn’t get any of his laws passed. THATS THE POINT!!!!!

207 posted on 02/14/2008 11:23:57 AM PST by factmart
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To: beckysueb

Thank you, I understand now.


208 posted on 02/14/2008 11:27:20 AM PST by Grunthor (Conservative in voluntary exile since 2006.)
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To: Post-Neolithic
You know a lot of people think that the dems are getting on Free Republic to hurt McCain. If that is true they are smarter than anyone who voted for McCain in the primaries. When they did that they handed over the election to the dems,

I have been a freeper since 2000 and believe likes Ann Coulte, never vote McTraitor.

209 posted on 02/14/2008 11:37:17 AM PST by factmart
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Maybe it's time to choose between destroying the GOP or building something entirely new.

F#$% the GOP. Let them learn that you cant out-socialist a full blown communist democrat.

210 posted on 02/14/2008 11:46:39 AM PST by Centurion2000 (su - | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r)
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To: K-oneTexas

You dont win by losing.


211 posted on 02/14/2008 11:47:31 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: K-oneTexas

Give me someone to vote for, not someone to vote against.


212 posted on 02/14/2008 11:48:46 AM PST by alarm rider ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -)
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To: Squantos; DoughtyOne
Ben Shapiro says - "McCain is better than Hillary Clinton. He's better than Barack Obama."

We say NOT. McCain is a turd who won't flush. The entire article is full of fear-mongering, and as I've been telling people, we will NOT be driven by fear.

You have spoken well. The GOP can suck it up and deal with it. I believe they made a grave miscalculation this time around. I believe they seriously misjudged the reaction of enough people to throw the elections into a tailspin for them.

I don't think they can recover from it now. It would take too much time to rebuild trust alone.

But as it stands, we're playing a giant game of "chicken" with the GOP, as they are with us. They're standing their ground, spewing crap like what Ben Shapiro writes and hoping we'll give in. But we stand equally as solid and look them back in the eye, unwilling to change, and warning of the results. Their shrieking becomes louder and more shrill as time goes on, but we don't budge...nor will we budge... and so we all continue headlong into the train wreck that is approaching.

The GOP abandoned me. I didn't abandon them. They moved farther to the left...not me. They ignored us for 4 years with regards to our attempted communications of our opinions on illegal immigration. I know it's bad timing, but now it's our turn to ignore them for at least 4 years. It's mildly amusing that they should solidly ignore us for four years, but all of the sudden they want to open "dialog" to petition for our support and try to convince us that Juan McPain is an old school conservative.

For me to tell them to kiss my ass just doesn't adequately express my contempt for them right now. But it's a good start! :-)
213 posted on 02/14/2008 11:53:52 AM PST by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: beckysueb

One reason that comes to mind is his recent comments about talk radio and especially during those of Reid’s letter to Limbaugh.


214 posted on 02/14/2008 11:54:09 AM PST by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: alarm rider
Give me someone to vote for, not someone to vote against.

I'd be happy to.

215 posted on 02/14/2008 12:28:49 PM PST by EternalVigilance (In America, the people are sovereign. McCain, Obama as ministers? Has the king lost his mind?)
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To: hiredhand

An excellent post.


216 posted on 02/14/2008 12:30:23 PM PST by EternalVigilance (In America, the people are sovereign. McCain, Obama as ministers? Has the king lost his mind?)
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To: factmart

...and my point is if, and I realize to some that might be a big if, the President can have a veto pen. I don’t hold much hope for getting complete control of Congress, but we have just enough control at the moment.


217 posted on 02/14/2008 12:48:41 PM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Turning the country over to socialists (Hillary or Obama) is losing. I will not participate in that action and exercise my vote against it. I will not effectively create a stronger Dem Party or help to weaken even further this two party system. One majority party is not an option.

For me voting other than the GOP is doing just that, participate in the giving away of the country. I don't need to hear about ceremonial vote to let someone I'm not pleased with them. I realize that the Dems have more registered voters than the GOP. This battle has always been there, GOP has been the smaller second party for years but worked to attract others with the issues they chose to defend.

I believe that giving a vote to a 3rd party candidate who may or may not even be on the ballot in all 50 States is for me - not a viable option. Sitting at home for me - not a viable option.

McCain can be controlled by having elected officials willing to speak and vote in accord with conservative ideals/principles in the Senate and House. By having an electorate willing to send emails and make phone calls when elected officials act against those ideals/principles they hold. This we have seen work.

I still believe in a GOP that can be ... cause no other party can make a difference in the short term of 2010, 2012 and 2018. I will vote for the GOP even with McCain in the front seat. I will try to keep what conservatives I have here in Texas in office. None of them are totally perfect. Last perfect person around, that I know of, died on a cross aver 2,000 years ago.
218 posted on 02/14/2008 12:54:06 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: EternalVigilance

Thanks. :-)....even though I get no joy from writing things like that! :-)


219 posted on 02/14/2008 1:00:00 PM PST by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: NavyCanDo

Exactly! People are just so mad because they didn’t get their way its like well I’m going to hold my breath till I pass out.


220 posted on 02/14/2008 1:01:21 PM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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