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California ripped as 'too queer for school'
WorldNetdaily.com ^ | February 12, 2008

Posted on 02/13/2008 3:56:43 AM PST by Man50D

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To: gracesdad; Trailerpark Badass; littlehouse36
So we should go the opposite direction and restrict choice to homeschooling and private schools? ( gracesdad)
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Don’t you love these NEA talking points?

One thing: The posters on this board are a lot sharper, funnier, and a good deal more clever with the language the NEA public relations people. Conservatives have a sharp wit. The NEA guys have talking points!

I just **love** that idea of comparing institutionalizing you child in a government Marxist prison camp ( mis-named “schools”) to leaving a baby in a hot car.

I will use that one a LOT!

41 posted on 02/13/2008 8:32:42 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: gracesdad
Weird.

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There are counties all over the U.S without a single private school. ( Entirely due to the monopolistic, price-fixed, government, Marxist indoctrination camps.)

42 posted on 02/13/2008 8:34:44 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

“I just **love** that idea of comparing institutionalizing you child in a government Marxist prison camp ( mis-named “schools”) to leaving a baby in a hot car.”

Ah, so you’ve gone from calling parents of kids in public school child abusers to child killers?


43 posted on 02/13/2008 8:35:13 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: wintertime

So are you saying that if we didn’t have public schools, cheap, affordable private schools would suddenly spring up? Please explain.


44 posted on 02/13/2008 8:37:37 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: gracesdad
So are you saying that if we didn’t have public schools, cheap, affordable private schools would suddenly spring up? Please explain.

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Another NEA ( Marxist as well) debating tactic.

Please read #33.

I did explain.

45 posted on 02/13/2008 8:41:58 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

Don’t know if you’ve seen this thread. Us public schoolers aren’t just child abusers any more, we’re equivalent to people who kill their children by leaving them in hot cars. Sort of makes you wonder if you’ve stumbled over into DU.

BTW, I completely disagree with the California school system on this and were I in that state I’d certainly be looking at my options.


46 posted on 02/13/2008 8:44:11 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: wintertime

I saw #33. If it can be done, then why isn’t it? It sure didn’t happen that way back in the days before universal public school in the U.S. Most kids just didn’t get an education or got a minimal one. Why would now be different?

Can you name one advanced, industrial nation that doesn’t have some form of public school? The only ones I know of are filthy, miserable third world places.

And please stop with the NEA talking points thing. I have no connection with the NEA and haven’t the slightest idea what their talking points are.


47 posted on 02/13/2008 8:50:20 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: gracesdad
PS — How is your choice restricted? Homeschool or private school. The government isn’t stopping you from doing either.

It's not, because I'm rich.

But some folks don't have the means to drop an extra $20K on their children's secondary education, in addition to, in my case, $2800 in county school taxes.

48 posted on 02/13/2008 8:51:18 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: wintertime; TheMom

I guess I was lucky to have intelligent enough children to see through the indoctrination bullshit.

Shame you were not as lucky.

Kinda like some of the daughters of the stern preacher man who kept them on a short leash turned out to be the biggest sluts in town and the idiot never knew it.


49 posted on 02/13/2008 8:51:38 AM PST by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: gracesdad
So we should go the opposite direction and restrict choice to homeschooling and private schools?

Start by getting the Feds out of the education racket.

That, alone, will do more to improve education in this country than anything else that's been tried in the last 100 years.

50 posted on 02/13/2008 8:53:07 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: MrB; TheMom

Do you advocate homeschooling for liberal or stupid or parents that are both too?

If so then you are helping to create some REALLY screwed up kids.


51 posted on 02/13/2008 8:54:55 AM PST by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: Man50D

There is a lot more wrong with California schools than the homosexual agenda. I know, my daughter graduated from Capistrano Valley H.S and the school could not have been much worse.

The quality of public school education is inversely proportionate to the growth of the NEA (National Education Ass., not the National Endowment for the Arts).


52 posted on 02/13/2008 8:56:54 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: gracesdad
So are you saying that if we didn’t have public schools, cheap, affordable private schools would suddenly spring up? Please explain.

Where did schools come from, before the Dept of Ed and the NEA?

53 posted on 02/13/2008 8:57:07 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Carry_Okie
Making a lot of noise about this is really stupid. California's laws governing home education are among the most liberal in the nation. This move could induce a leftist backlash that could destroy home education in California. We've been growing and are both numerous and active, but I fear it's too early.

One thing for certain: the left doesn't care what we think and is more than willing to cut our throats.


Remaining silent by not standing up to Socialists who want to cut our throats and threaten the foundation of this country, the family, is not only more than stupid , it is sure suicide. Remaining silent is exactly what many Germans did starting in the mid 1920's through the 1930's and the result was Hitler. History has shown the people should make a lot of noise and oppose anyone who seeks their destruction.
54 posted on 02/13/2008 9:00:36 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Jim Noble

Willie Nelson said a leader is someone who figures out which way the crowd’s going and jumps out in front of it. One thing that’s pretty consistent is that perverse lifestyles require naive and young people. Nobody really cares if a bunch of sixty year old guys are banging each other. However, the old pervs need something to defile. They get bored with each other.


55 posted on 02/13/2008 9:01:21 AM PST by Richard Kimball (Sure, they'd love to kill me, as long as they can do it without admitting I exist)
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To: Carry_Okie; Man50D
One thing for certain: the left doesn't care what we think and is more than willing to cut our throats.

Please read message #33.

Carrie Okie, you are absolutely correct!

If the Liberal/Marxists could get away with it, they would kill us. I am not joking when I say that Christians risks having to escape to the catacombs.

It really is as serious as you have stated.

Making a lot of noise about this is really stupid. California's laws governing home education are among the most liberal in the nation. This move could induce a leftist backlash that could destroy home education in California. We've been growing and are both numerous and active, but I fear it's too early.

I seriously disagree with you. We must move now, before the Marxists grow stronger. I fear we are nearly at the tipping point now.

Conservatives must rapidly make every effort to get the nation's children out of the government prison schools and into conservative alternatives. I recommend the steps I outlined in message #33.

56 posted on 02/13/2008 9:39:32 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: sandyeggo

Ping!


57 posted on 02/13/2008 9:41:16 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: wintertime
We do differ as to means.
58 posted on 02/13/2008 10:00:54 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: gracesdad
The worse part is not reading this crap here on FR - know what the worse part is? Reading quotes of this crap on DU with their hilarious footnotes of how ignorant 'repugs' are.

I wish people would knock off the snide, personal attacks just so carefully worded so that someone can step back and say "I didn't attack you! All I said was sending your child to a public school is child abuse, but that doesn't mean you are a child abuser, even though you send your child to a public school. Oh and btw, all public school teachers are either naive, stupid, or greedy, but that doesn't mean YOU, just ignore that "all" part."

I get what is being said, as well as everyone else with half a brain.

59 posted on 02/13/2008 10:38:23 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Start by getting the Feds out of the education racket.

Okay, then what? Do schools spring fully formed out of someone's forehead ready to go? If schools were closed today, how long before new ones form? What about the loss of jobs - think the economy can absorb that? What about parents that then will need to quit their jobs to stay home - ready to pay benefits to them? How many kids then have nothing, absolutely nothing and for how long? Years? Decades?

Then, how long before someone gets the bright idea that "Hey! we need a public education system?" and is there a country left to form these schools? There is a reason every developed country has a public education system. There is a direct tie in between education, economy growth, and a need for fewer governmental services.

60 posted on 02/13/2008 10:44:41 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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