Posted on 02/10/2008 3:15:53 AM PST by Polk Salad Annie Buzz
Then I want to tell you about the homeschool speech and debate leagues that are out there, in case you have not heard of them. Their motto is: "So that you are prepared to give an answer for the Hope that is within you". Meaning, that is why you are learning how to speak and debate (argue) for your beliefs.
I've homeschooled two into college; they both participated in these leagues. One is on a forensics scholarship in college, and the other one is one of the top three debate teams in college, as a Freshman! These kids have debated 5-7 YEARS before entering college, and it has changed the face of college debate. Students who come from private and public schools have to work, bigtime, to catch up to them, and our students move right to the top of the college debate teams.
And part of the secret to their success was that they had FUN learning to do it and participating in it; when you enjoy your learning experience, you go SO much further with it than those who do not like, or merely like it. These kids say that, "this is what we do for fun!"
Time for America to pull their children out of the public schools, and take back educating their own.
I find this quite disturbing.
Parents who currently have their children enrolled in government schools have NO idea how difficult and the sacrifices parents make in home schooling their children.
Most people home school for religious reasons, which means they are motivated by a different set of objectives other then just leaving a crappy socialist school system.
Home schooling is not for the fainthearted, if vast numbers do try it and fail, there will be a BACKLASH against homeschooling by the state
It is ludicrous to think the powerful union interests and the state interest in keeping the property tax paying for schools will not become a battleground. Bottom line is the state will crush the homes school movement when the tax dollars are threatened
Also if vast numbers of people try to enroll their little darling in Christians schools, they will find the requirements of joining sometimes onerous, like actually attending the church that supports the school !!!
My wife and I home schooled our six children back in the 80's and early 90's until we could afford private Christian schools.
Back then it was a very small movement and also quasi - illegal in our state
Only the highly dedicated and motivated home schooled their children.
Instead of making a call to abandon the government school system in mass, the homeschooling movement should continue to operate by a grass roots, family by family
My next door neighbor home schooled her son,now 19 and daughter 22. They are unbelievable kids. In college now, well disciplined, polite and extremely friendly.
All great things start with an idea. Hopefully, someone with leadership ability will implement it.
My kids were homeschooled in the 80s and early 90s. The debating team is an excellent idea. There is so much available to homeschoolers these days.
that’s great...I got damaged pretty badly from public schools. We need the voicher system all over the country right now. It’s the parents money for God’s sakes.
You are absolutely right! These are points that I have not considered.
I have a suggestion:
The Marxists understood that they had to gain control of education. Conservatives ( Christian and non-Christianunchristian) must do the same. How?
Solution ( 2 things):
1) Conservatives ( Christian and non-Christianunchristian) must set up private scholarship foundations to grant private vouchers to private schools that uphold and support constituionalconstitutionalconstitutionallyconstituentlyconstituentconstituency, free market, and JudeoJudeJudoJudeaJudieJudiJudJudderJadeJuddJudyJute Christian belief.
If Harvard can have a $35 BILLION dollar endowment, and universities across this nation similar endowments in the BILLIONS, then Conservatives **could** do this for K-12 education.
**Every** child in America **could** have access to the best education ever seen since the dawn of humankind, **if** conservatives **wanted**. In fact, we could do it for every child in the world. We are that rich as a nation!
These foundations would inspect, certify, and test. Not only could they provide vouchers to individual children, but they could also fund individual teachers who could set up one room school houses, dame schools, micro-schools, and virtual schools.
2) Conservatives must organize a massive school tax revolt that would shut down government K-12 education.
” My wife taught all seven of our children to read when they were four years old using Samuel Blumenfeld’s Alpha Phonics”
hmmm...good info there. Thanks - I’ll look that one up.
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Please read post #47.
Government vouchers will merely turn the private schools into government schools.
Exactly: The federal or state dollars flow into that school, they are no longer "private" in the sense they are in complete control.
Mr. government worker will want to see how "his" money is being spent
no, it’s not the governments money. The parents already pay with property tax and other taxes so getting a rebate without any strings would be the way to go. Why should parents pay the tax in the mortgage payment or rental and then have to pay additionally for the private school?
True, in the sense they allow us to believe that, until you can't or don't pay your property taxes. Then ask them who's money they think it is?
As for the rebate idea, it's a good one, but that idea opens up a Pandora box of other questions, like childless homeowners wanting an exemption, couples who have grown child who no longer want to pay
Tony Joe White.
I'm going to dig the song up and "play me a mess of it".
Tony Joe White.
that’s what i thought it was.
Homeschooling is already HUGE! Much larger than they report. The Left does not want people to know how many homeschoolers there are, because they know what it would mean to them. And if the homeschooling community continues to grow, by thousands or millions more leaving the schools?
Ha!! GUESS who will suffer from the 'BACKLASH'?!? It will NOT be the homeschoolers! LOL.
Excellent idea! We used history books nor filled with propaganda and lies as well.
No mistake. You must have empty minds in order to successfully develop New Soviet Man.
Pfui! It is not that difficult! People who work and single mothers home educate their children. Homeschooling is a very established education alternative now, loaded with options and help for the new home educators.
"Most people home school for religious reasons, which means they are motivated by a different set of objectives other then just leaving a crappy socialist school system."
That does not mean that you cannot pull your children from the public schools for any reason you wish to pull them. We are a free people, and any laws trying to force Americans to use the public school system are Unconstitutional laws, and should be fought.
"Home schooling is not for the fainthearted, if vast numbers do try it and fail, there will be a BACKLASH against homeschooling by the state."
vast numbers HAVE been homeschooling their children, and they are HUGELY successful! Even high school dropouts have home educated their children, who became Merit Scholars! You need to do some research, and get the facts straight, rather than come here to fear monger, and try to stop parents from doing their duty.
"Also if vast numbers of people try to enroll their little darling in Christians schools, they will find the requirements of joining sometimes onerous, like actually attending the church that supports the school !!!"
That is not true, either! There are many Christian schools that allow students who do not attend the church affiliated with the Christian school! Just look at the Catholic schools that are filled with non-Catholics! And Christian schools that know that you want to put your child into one of them will work to help you do it, even helping the parent with their financial ability to pay for the schooling.
Once again, you need to get the facts!
"It is ludicrous to think the powerful union interests and the state interest in keeping the property tax paying for schools will not become a battleground. Bottom line is the state will crush the homes school movement when the tax dollars are threatened."
As we saw with the immigration reform, once you reach a tipping point of public opinion, the government is forced to reconsider. Once you have tens of millions of activist citizens, abandoning the public schools and voting their consciences regarding homeschooling, the government will be forced to reconsider. They will not be crushing the people.
And I might add, that is an interesting choice of terms you used there: "the state will crush the homes school movement" - that's straight from the Communist Manifesto language.
You really need to get the facts, and sort our your priorities.
Besides which, if tens of millions of home educating families rise up against the government, for anything, the government will find itself backing down.
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