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Wheat price surge raises inflation fears (wheat stock 60-year low)
FT ^ | 02/08/08 | Chris Flood

Posted on 02/08/2008 7:52:59 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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" food prices are outrageous as it is....beef and then eggs and all corn products and now wheat.... there is already starvation in this world, and its going to get worse....

Complete nonsense. The by-product from bio fuels/ ethanol production is - animal feed.
Of course, those that gouge and profit from fear mongering like you to believe otherwize.

21 posted on 02/08/2008 10:31:12 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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Don’t worry wheat is food, food and energy aren’t used in the inflation index. You won’t even know there’s any inflation at all.


22 posted on 02/08/2008 11:07:26 PM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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There is a lot of land which farmers are/were paid subsidies NOT to grow corn and other grains on which can now go back into crop production.


Most CRP contracts I am aware of are for 10 years. Can you get out of these contracts w/o having to pay back all the subsidies already received?

Aren’t some the requirements for putting corn land into CRP based on erosion/water or wildlife conservation/water pollution aspects? It has been over 10 years since we had land in the CRP and we don’t farm, but instead rented our crop land prior to that, so while I have some direct knowledge, it is not current or from a producer standpoint.

Aren’t corn and wheat land quite different from each other? Can wheat be grown on former corn or bean land or vice versus? I thought one of the differentiating aspects was water availabilty and another is that wheat needs flat land, while corn and beans can be grown on smaller, hillier acres.

One of the aspects of this I have seen with farmers I know is that last year people stopped raising feeder calves and decided to put all their energies into crop farming,mostly feed corn and soy beans. I was told this was one of the main reasons beef had become so expensive. One beef rancher told me recently that the price of beef went high enough due to demand that some farmers returned to purchasing feeder calves.

Just from observation, farming seems profitable at the moment and our two businesses, both of which are dependant on consumer disposable income, are not suffering at all. I recently spoke with a relatively small distributor of craft and sewing notions from the Louisville area and they had a record year last year, with a strong start in January.

When markets increase due to demand, it is almost always the case that production increases to take advantage of that market. But farmers in many areas are being restricted by access to affordable water and the cost of fuel for production, transportation and, in the case of corn, for drying.

Personally, we have begun cutting our own wood instead of buying it and eating more vension. However, rising costs also mean that we will have to raise our own prices this Spring.


23 posted on 02/09/2008 7:05:07 AM PST by reformedliberal
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When I was in Taipei, I stayed at a very nice hotel and we got a breakfast buffet included in the room. They had smoked salmon. I when I got down for breakfast, the guy had just put out a whole silver plate of smoked salmon. I ate half of it.

I was hungry. That’s when I earned the nickname. I like duck eggs, but stayed away from duck paw.


24 posted on 02/09/2008 8:48:10 AM PST by Perdogg (Richard B Cheney - A National Treasure)
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I think most of the critics on here know little about farming and how the markets work.

I suspect that strong demand for Wheat from China and India along with the low dollar has much more to do with the price of Wheat than Ethanol. If the price of Pineapples or Cranberries went up the critics here would claim they was using the land to grow corn. For example fruit prices was up last year because of a killer frost not because orchard owners is cutting down their trees and planting corn.

Besides back when Carter was President we had high oil prices and low crop prices and the farmers went broke. Today we have high oil prices, high crop prices and the farmers are doing well. I guess most Freepers would like to see the farmers go broke. Hell adjusted for inflation and as percent of a person’s budget they are getting one hell of a bargain on the cost of food.

If Ethanol replaces 5% of the gasoline supply then that is money we are keeping in the nation and oil we are not importing. I don’t like subsidies but it cost the taxpayers less money to pay the distillers than it is to pay the farmers directly.

And if anyone knows the history of Ag Economics then they will predict the farmers will overproduce and drive the price down like they have so many times in the past.


25 posted on 02/09/2008 9:32:48 AM PST by Swiss
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