Posted on 02/04/2008 7:54:13 AM PST by TornadoAlley3
I don’t think Huck has to attack McCain. Romney’s millions and 35 million campaign debt so far have gone to attacks on his major competitors — the main competitor now being McCain. Huckabee is a smart politician. If I were him I’d be hoping that Romney and McCain cover each other in mud and Huck comes back and sneaks past them for the nomination.
I think less and less of this guy everday now.
“I don’t think Huck has to attack McCain”
McCain is the front runner, yet Huck attacks Romney, Sean Hannity, media...everybody but McCain. Huck will not sneak past anything but his blind voters.
Blind eh? As opposed to the Romney voters that actually think he’s conservative.
http://www.massnews.com/2002_editions/06_June/061802_mn_romney.shtml
“Mike Huckabee is guilty of being a complete jackass. Has Mike Huckabee ever had an IQ test?” ~ elizabetty
Now, now, don’t be tooo hard on him. Lots of smart people have had a “conversion experience” akin to their “conversion to Jesus” after listening to “God is Green sermons” by the liars for Jesus grifters who are also “scientists”:
“Climate change is a weapon, and like terrorism, knows no boundaries. It can strike anywhere in any form — a heat wave in one place, a drought or a storm surge in another” and humankind has only a 50/50 chance of surviving the 21st century unless the US provides enough “love offerings” to stop that from happening. And these proselytizers in impressive flowing robes also told him that if anyone would dare go against the scientific consensus on climate change he would be dismissed as a denier; a heretic, and a worker for the Devil, ExxonMobil.
WAKE UP people!!!!!
Here’s the guy who herded the gullible “religious leaders” (like Huckabee) together to hear him preach his “sermon” which got the latest round of “crisis mongering” started:
The “Reverend” Sir John Houghton, former head of the UK Meteorological Office, Publisher of Al Gore’s book on GW and Former Co-Chair of the IPCC:
“Unless we announce disasters, no one will listen”
Some call that, “Lying for Jesus”. I would agree.
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Public radio interview with the Reverend Richard Cizik [a trained political scientist and vice president in Washington for the National Association of Evangelicals]
Key excerpt:
Ms. Tippett: You have become quite a spokesman for Evangelical Christian concern about the environment. And, you know, I wonder if that’s something that surprises you. Is that something that’s on your agenda, that’s on the Evangelical Christian agenda that you would not have imagined there 25 years ago or even…
Rev. Cizik: I would have never imagined it. I just would have to say I had a conversion.
Ms. Tippett: Well, tell me about that.
Rev. Cizik: Not just to Christ, you see, many, many years ago. But in 2002, I had a conversion to the science of climate change. ....
Ms. Tippett: Well, tell me about your conversion experience in 2002. ...
Rev. Cizik: First of all, I met great men of science who, like Sir John Houghton, knighted by the queen, the head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, who came forward and said to me, “You can believe in the science and be a faithful biblical Christian, and I am,’ he said. And so in a humble way, not arrogantly, admitting the questions that still exist, John Houghton and many others, for three days, walked some of us that were there in Oxford, England, through all the science, through our biblical teaching and responsibility, and all I can say is, in a John Wesley kind of fashion, my heart was warmed. My heart, you know, was changed...”
http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/evangelicalevolution/transcript.shtml
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“This is going to be an issue which evangelicals are going to look at when they cast their ballots,” Cizik said. ..” But only Republican former Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas otherwise considered among the more conservative candidates in the race has explicitly aligned himself with the creation care movement. ..” [The Reverend Richard Cizik ] Much more: “God is Green”
11/06/2007 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21656644/
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From Gribbit: “The conclusions of the IPCC Summary Report were determined before the study even began. The idea was to make it the “Final Word” on global climate change. The reason for making it the “Final Word” was that by using that terminology, they had hoped that the public would take their bait hook, line, and sinker and they could get the political changes that they want. Yes I said political changes.” See more Gribbit Tidbits
http://www.gribbitonline.com/2007/02/15/why-you-shouldnt-believe-the-global-warming-scare/
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“The evolution of the scientific debate about anthropogenic climate change illustrates both the value of skepticism and the pitfalls of partisanship.”.. Scientists ... reputation for impartiality is severely compromised by the shocking lack of political diversity among American academics, who suffer from the kind of group-think that develops in cloistered cultures. Until this profound and well documented intellectual homogeneity changes, scientists will be suspected of constituting a leftistthink-tank.” “On the left, an argument emerged urging fellow scientists to deliberately exaggerate their findings so as to galvanize an apathetic public...” ~ Kerry Emmanuel - MIT
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“No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits…climate change provides the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world” Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister bttt
Given the premise that Romney and McCain will receive an equal number of votes, one will emerge as the clear majority winner and will receive the nomination on the first ballot and that will be the end of it.
But there is still a chance of changing that outcome if instead of voting for one or the other, everyone who is voting for McCain as an alternate pick because there are no conservatives left to vote for should vote for Huckabee instead. That would practically insure that McCain would not receive a majority.
If you were going to vote for Romney as an alternative because there were no conservative candidates to vote for, a vote for Huckabee would decrease the Romney numbers and reduce the chance that he would have a majority.
Huckabee's numbers would be increased sufficiently for there to be a three-way race, with no clear majority.
That being the case, electors will be free to change there votes for whoever they wanted. On the assumption that most of the electors really wanted a conservative to begin with, such as Thompson or Hunter, they are free to cast their votes for one or the other on the second ballot.
In all the FR polls, Fred was the run-away favorite to win against any other candidates, Republican or Democrat. If that was an indication of a national interest, I would assume that Fred would out-vote Hillary or Obama as well.
How important is it for us to have a conservative president for the next four years? Seems there is much to undo from all the damage that has been done during the last 16 years at least. And it seems most bizarre that we are on the verge of placing the one individual who has done the most damage to our political system into the Oval Office.
Are we really that politcally exhausted that we are going to settle for what the MSM and enemies within have chosen for us to vote for? Lord have mercy on us. Think of all the plans they have that will be placed on the front burner. I won't even begin to list them.
Well, duh! What's your point, Huckster?
Wake up, a brokered convention gets us McCain.
With the problems Huck has had with ethics, I don't see why anyone would vote for him.
“Blind eh? As opposed to the Romney voters that actually...”
...thought he was a leftist like them when they voted for him. Listen to them whine to the NY Times on May 11, 2007:
“.. he stated that he supported gay rights, but then attempted to have a Constitutional ammendment added to the ballot to have gay marriage banned in the state. ..”
“I firmly believe that he’ll ‘change his mind’ and go agree with his base if he’s elected just like he did on the abortion right’s issue. ..”
“.I will never forget when he vetoed the stem cell legilation after the bills’ sponsors had worked so hard at generating bi-partisan support. And he vetoed the bill ...”
“...If you want to know what Mitt is really about, please try to find his speeches to the Federalist Society to see what he’s really made of. ..”
NY Times thecaucusblog/Comments section [Mass. voters talking about Romney] http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com
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11/10/2005 Mitt Romney addresses the Federalist Society
http://www2.nationalreview.com/corner/romneyaddress.pdf
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What is the Federalist Society?:
“...the Federalist Society, the expanding network of conservative lawyers who over the past quarter-century have played a leading role in reshaping the nation’s judiciary and setting high-level Republican administration policy. ..
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“..One of the group’s founding fathers was Edwin Meese, who would soon become attorney general under President Ronald Reagan. Olson was part of that Justice Department, and so was Giuliani, who served as its third-highest official. The plan was to sow talented conservatives at every level of the federal judiciary and ultimately gain a foothold at the Supreme Court. “That was very much on our minds,” Olson said.
It appears to be working as planned. When he took office in 2001, Bush leaned heavily on Federalists to create a legal power structure to continue the work of seeding the judiciary. Roberts, along with fellow conservatives Alito, Scalia and Thomas, now form a formidable bloc on the Supreme Court.
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Split among GOP camps
But as the Federalists have grown, they haven’t been immune to internal fissures. Federalists have key figures in both the Romney and Thompson campaigns who believe their candidate is a more worthy vessel for their legal philosophies. And they say they haven’t had to make the sort of compromise that Giuliani’s conservative supporters have.
David McIntosh, a former Indiana GOP congressman and gubernatorial candidate, is vice chairman of the Federalist Society, and he’s a domestic policy adviser to Thompson. Douglas Kmiec, another high-ranking official in the Reagan Justice Department, has gone with Romney, whom he calls “authentic.”
More: http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/09/giuliani_burnishes_conservativ.html
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Governor Mitt Romney Announces The Advisory Committee On The Constitution And The Courts
http://www.mittromney.com/News/Press-Releases/Constitution_Courts
I’m not trying to sway you. Everyone should vote their heart. He’s got issues. I admit that. The rest of them do too though. I don’t know who will win but I figure either way America looses. I just watched a code pink flick actually blocking people and pushing them down, to keep them from going into the recruiting station. Sometimes, are we any different here?
“a vote for Huckabee is a vote against Romney”
Yes, that’s correct. What’s the problem?
More backwash from Romney’s pro-homosexual agenda in Mass:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1963612/posts
Romney can fool some of the people. But not me.
Is that all I get in return for such a long, well thought out logical post? Explain. Thanks.
A VOTE FOR HUCKABEE IS A VOTE FOR HUCKABEE!!
Huckabee - reliably pro-life, not recently pro-life.
Huckabee - reliably pro 2nd amendment, not recently 2nd amendment.
He understands that it is for self defense, not just hunting and sports.
He is an ardent, articulate supporter of the Fair Tax, and I believe he really “gets it”. It is the best hope on the horizon for giving power back to the people, and waking people up to the stranglehold the current tax system has on the people and the economy.
If DUNCAN HUNTER believes he can be trusted on border/immigration and WOT issues, I would trust Duncan Hunter’s informed, educated judgment after he spent a year getting to know the candidates, more than I would trust the opinion of any of the haters on here.
Don’t let the people who say he can’t be elected give us another self fulfilling prophecy of having to settle for someone we have to HOPE will do what he says. Right now it’s just name recognition, and when most people get to know Mike Huckabee, they like him.
They were both governors, but those people give Romney a pass for not being able to do what he “really” wanted, because he had a Democrat legislature to work with, when Huckabee was able to work successfully with his Democrat legislature.
Every vote for Mike Huckabee on Tuesday will be one more vote to show the establishment and the media that the election can’t be bought and we don’t have to settle for their opinion of “that’s the best we can get”.
If DUNCAN HUNTER believes he can be trusted on border/immigration and WOT issues, I would trust Duncan Hunter’s informed, educated judgment after he spent a year getting to know the candidates, more than I would trust the opinion of any of the haters on here.
“...can fool some of the people. But not me.” ~ Greg F.
I don’t know about that, but you sure have shown yourself to be a really “smart-feller” on these various threads, I’ll give you that! LOL
It may be annoying to Governor Huckabee, but it's a fact nonetheless.
A vote for Huckabee is effectively a vote for McCain.
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